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Lambton17/02/2018 11:08:31
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Garry,

There must first be a definite preload on the rear pair of bearings otherwise the following adjustments will not be correct. The purpose of the rear pair of bearings is to take the end load on the spindle when doing any turning towards the chuck and especially when drilling from the tailstock. You should not be able to detect any endplay on the spindle once it has been refitted correctly. Of course the tiny clearance between the bronze bush and the spindle must be maintained.

I know one owner who did not adjust this pair of bearings correctly leaving them with " negative preload" and then found that during drilling from the tailstock the spindle came to a stop and the drive belt slipped (fortunately) as the mandrel reacted to the high end load by moving back with the tapered end forced into contact with the bronze bush. All was well after he carefully adjusted the end float of the rear bearings.

After completing a spindle replacement it is advisable to gently tap the spindle from both ends using a soft hammer to ensure that the ball bearing rings are not jammed a bit on the mandrel or the outer casting. The bearing rings are a very close fit and can stall a little.in their locations.

Edited By Lambton on 17/02/2018 11:17:58

David Standing 117/02/2018 11:09:24
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Posted by Billy Bean on 14/02/2018 11:12:05:

Currently speaking to Myford about a new Connoiseur lathe.

They advise that they can supply spares and advise on problems so may be worth sending them an e-mail.

BB

EDIT - e-mail address is ---- [email protected]

Edited By Billy Bean on 14/02/2018 11:15:12

 

 

 

'New' Myford (RDG) is a totally different kettle of fish to 'old' Myford, I doubt there is any of the old expertise/people existing in new Myford.

 

 

Edited By David Standing 1 on 17/02/2018 11:10:10

Mike Poole17/02/2018 11:57:01
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Posted by David Standing 1 on 17/02/2018 11:09:24

'New' Myford (RDG) is a totally different kettle of fish to 'old' Myford, I doubt there is any of the old expertise/people existing in new Myford.

Although few if any Beeston staff may have made the move to Yorkshire the Halifax area has a solid reputation for building machine tools and I would think New Myford would use this resource for staff and sub contracting.

Mike

KWIL17/02/2018 14:31:55
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When you consider the amount of finance tied up in "New" Myford, I think you will find they are doing the job properly.

norm norton17/02/2018 18:14:30
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Posted by Lambton on 17/02/2018 11:08:31:

There must first be a definite preload on the rear pair of bearings ...

I know one owner who did not adjust this pair of bearings correctly leaving them with " negative preload" ....

Many thanks for posting this correction to my previous view of leaving a few tenths for the oil. As soon as I saw what you had said it was blindingly obvious that the bearings must 'just' remove all possible end float. Back in the workshop I immediately reset the spindle adjustment again. Always learning ........

Nick Hulme17/02/2018 19:45:48
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Posted by KWIL on 17/02/2018 14:31:55:

When you consider the amount of finance tied up in "New" Myford, I think you will find they are doing the job properly.

I may be wrong but I believe they bought the name simply so they can sell "Myford Branded" Chinese products at astronomical mark-ups and that this was the driver for the financial input, I have seen little to disabuse me of this fanciful notion.

The initial behaviour of the "New Myford" on eBay might not colour your opinion of them but aside from being forced to back off by massive public opinion there was no evidence of any good will to the second hand marketers of genuine Myford parts or those selling new compatible parts, New Myford acted like utter Outhouses and never apologised.

David Standing 117/02/2018 20:10:22
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Posted by Nick Hulme on 17/02/2018 19:45:48:
Posted by KWIL on 17/02/2018 14:31:55:

When you consider the amount of finance tied up in "New" Myford, I think you will find they are doing the job properly.

I may be wrong but I believe they bought the name simply so they can sell "Myford Branded" Chinese products at astronomical mark-ups and that this was the driver for the financial input, I have seen little to disabuse me of this fanciful notion.

The initial behaviour of the "New Myford" on eBay might not colour your opinion of them but aside from being forced to back off by massive public opinion there was no evidence of any good will to the second hand marketers of genuine Myford parts or those selling new compatible parts, New Myford acted like utter Outhouses and never apologised.

Yup! yes

John Billard 117/02/2018 20:47:56
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I purchased a refurbished Super 7 last year from Myford exchanging my older machine. I visited their premises twice to see how things are going and they were nothing but helpful. The new lathe was installed and set up shortly after by their staff. All done very efficiently. I am very pleased with the new machine.

I saw no evidence of a "Chinese" connection and I think that these claims should be verified before going on to this site.

As an aside when I was at Myford they sold me a new Fobco Star drilling machine for £275 which I think shows their veracity.

For all their attributes "old Myford" are no more. The new owners should be congratulated in allowing the name to continue.

Kind regards

John B

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Ian Hewson17/02/2018 21:00:01
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All my dealings with RDG/Myford from the old days in the second hand tools shop to the firm they are today I find they are totally genuine in there dealings, and when I call at the Mytholmroyd premises they are always helpful.

To total them without any substance is disengenuos.

To try and protect a name they have paid for from being used by others is fair enough, how would you feel if you had paid out and then found others freeloading?

I have no other interest in them other than a satisfied customer.

Ian P17/02/2018 21:02:07
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Posted by John Billard 1 on 17/02/2018 20:47:56:

I purchased a refurbished Super 7 last year from Myford exchanging my older machine.

As an aside when I was at Myford they sold me a new Fobco Star drilling machine for £275 which I think shows their veracity.

John B

As a Fobco Star owner I was unaware that new Fobco machines are still available (or were in 2017).

Ian P

John Billard 117/02/2018 21:52:24
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The Fobco was new old stock. I was told it came from a Manchester college but it was never used. I had to clean off the original anti rust goo put on by Fobco and the chuck key was still held in its housing with its perished rubber band. Came with a British Jacobs chuck.... I am still running it in.... I know that I am a lucky boy....

Best wishes

John B

Ian P17/02/2018 22:06:15
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Posted by John Billard 1 on 17/02/2018 21:52:24:

The Fobco was new old stock. I was told it came from a Manchester college but it was never used. I had to clean off the original anti rust goo put on by Fobco and the chuck key was still held in its housing with its perished rubber band. Came with a British Jacobs chuck.... I am still running it in.... I know that I am a lucky boy....

Best wishes

John B

Wow, you did a get a bargain!

Ian P

Hopper17/02/2018 22:45:37
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Posted by Nick Hulme on 17/02/2018 19:45:48:
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I may be wrong but I believe they bought the name simply so they can sell "Myford Branded" Chinese products ..

I think you are. Totally. No evidence to support that assertion in my recent dealings with them on parts for an ML7 rebuild.

 

Edited By Hopper on 17/02/2018 22:47:51

Nick Hulme17/02/2018 22:49:22
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Posted by Hopper on 11/02/2018 11:15:28:

Yes it looks like Myford no longer stocks the bronze bushing

They sold them all off on eBay, I spotted it while they were on with knocking out all their stock of real service parts and have one on the shelf in the workshop for my standard Super 7 head should I use the head again and need the spare

Nick Hulme17/02/2018 22:52:23
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Posted by Hopper on 17/02/2018 22:45:37:
Posted by Nick Hulme on 17/02/2018 19:45:48:
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I may be wrong but I believe they bought the name simply so they can sell "Myford Branded" Chinese products ..

I think you are. Totally. No evidence to support that assertion in my recent dealings with them on parts for an ML7 rebuild.

 

Edited By Hopper on 17/02/2018 22:47:51

They still have the old stock which they haven't been able to dump on eBay but are not "customer centric", the Super 7 Bronze Bushes are a case in point of something where they were able to dump all the stock they bough on eBay and have done so

 

Edited By Nick Hulme on 17/02/2018 22:53:15

Mike Poole17/02/2018 23:26:17
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Talking to Myford on their show stand which featured a brand new lathe with a made in Halifax badge, they told me they are made in UK not just assembled. Apparently the new machines gained the seal of approval from Mr Moore. That seems like a good endorsement. The machine on display looks very well made and finished to me. For the thick end of ten grand I am not sure I would buy one but I have a ML7R in V good nick.

Mike

Hopper18/02/2018 04:30:34
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Posted by Nick Hulme on 17/02/2018 22:52:23:
Posted by Hopper on 17/02/2018 22:45:37:
Posted by Nick Hulme on 17/02/2018 19:45:48:
...

I may be wrong but I believe they bought the name simply so they can sell "Myford Branded" Chinese products ..

I think you are. Totally. No evidence to support that assertion in my recent dealings with them on parts for an ML7 rebuild.

 

Edited By Hopper on 17/02/2018 22:47:51

They still have the old stock which they haven't been able to dump on eBay but are not "customer centric", the Super 7 Bronze Bushes are a case in point of something where they were able to dump all the stock they bough on eBay and have done so

 

Edited By Nick Hulme on 17/02/2018 22:53:15

So they have sold all their old stock - that is what such a business is supposed to do: sell things.

Still no sign of any Chinese parts with Myford branding to replace them.

So far, so good. Sort of. Time will tell, I guess.

 

Edited By Hopper on 18/02/2018 04:31:09

David Standing 118/02/2018 19:39:47
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Posted by Hopper on 18/02/2018 04:30:34:
Posted by Nick Hulme on 17/02/2018 22:52:23:
Posted by Hopper on 17/02/2018 22:45:37:
Posted by Nick Hulme on 17/02/2018 19:45:48:
...

I may be wrong but I believe they bought the name simply so they can sell "Myford Branded" Chinese products ..

I think you are. Totally. No evidence to support that assertion in my recent dealings with them on parts for an ML7 rebuild.

 

Edited By Hopper on 17/02/2018 22:47:51

They still have the old stock which they haven't been able to dump on eBay but are not "customer centric", the Super 7 Bronze Bushes are a case in point of something where they were able to dump all the stock they bough on eBay and have done so

 

Edited By Nick Hulme on 17/02/2018 22:53:15

So they have sold all their old stock - that is what such a business is supposed to do: sell things.

Still no sign of any Chinese parts with Myford branding to replace them.

So far, so good. Sort of. Time will tell, I guess.

 

Edited By Hopper on 18/02/2018 04:31:09

 

 

Chinese parts?

 

Chucks

Chuck keys

HSS and tipped tooling

Arbors

QCTP

QCTP Tool holders

Live & dead centres

Collets

Drills

Reamers

Taps

Dies

Boring heads

Changewheels

Dividing heads

V blocks

Parallels

MT sleeves

Boring bars

Taper tooling

Measuring and marking tools

 

 

Shall I go on? The list of Chinese stuff Myford sell with their own branding is endless.

Now, I have no axe to grind, I have a Myford 254, but let us be honest about this.

 

 

 

Edited By David Standing 1 on 18/02/2018 19:41:34

Billy Bean18/02/2018 19:50:42
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I will phone them in the morning and ask for a definitive answer as my understanding is that my new lathe is UK manufacture.


Ian Hewson18/02/2018 20:32:08
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So I am to beleive that old Myford made everything they sold themselves?

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