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John Stevenson25/08/2016 23:06:50
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I can remember the days [ just] when you went into the shed to make something.

Having read all the above posts it now makes me more aware that this forum seems to have the highest noise to signal ratio [ no typo ]

Edited By John Stevenson on 25/08/2016 23:07:19

Mark C25/08/2016 23:13:40
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John, so you don't have internet in your workshop or use files on your CNC gear from CAD software you have to create before you can "make something"?

How about the old method using drawings, problem with that is finding a drawing board and learning to use one, it's much faster to sketch out on the PC and then get making.

Mark

John Stevenson25/08/2016 23:18:56
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Yes I have computers, CAD and CAM but no internet access.

Very easy to draw on one, post process it and transfer the file to the mill, lathe, router or laser cutter.

Why do you need the detraction of the internet ?

Mark C25/08/2016 23:25:41
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I use it all the time in my workshop, saves going back to the drawing office to get the bits of information I forgot (as a design engineer, I obviously never "omit" dimensions or stuff, it's just design development in real time).

If you read all the posts, Bob is also lacking a signal for his radio which runs on wifi. I suppose he could also go back to an equally old fashioned short wave radio and listen to the Russians.....

Mark

PS. How on earth do you go about dealing with software licencing and updates etc?

Edited By Mark C on 25/08/2016 23:28:41

PPS. How do you manage drawing control - every secure system I have seen uses a network link to a seperate safe storage location for master drawings (in  my case PDM Works)

Edited By Mark C on 25/08/2016 23:30:36

Mark C25/08/2016 23:27:34
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Additionally, if you are using modern 3D cad, you would save a huge amount of time having access to the parts libraries rather than drawing vendor parts etc...

John Stevenson25/08/2016 23:44:18
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None of what I make / repair is new enough for 3D drawing to be available.

Also 99.9% of everything I make is from a 2D file and so often the file bears little resemblance to the part as lead in and lead out is drawn on the drawing to make the CAM side so much simpler.

 

Today as an example I drew the door closing catch up for a classic Ferrari. 15 minutes at the most as a pure 2D and not even 2 1/2D as depth of cut is put in in CAM.

Don't suppose for a minute that this is available on Grabcad ?

 

Drawings are secure as they are saved to hard drive and 2TB remote drive on one computer that has no chance of getting on the net as there isn't a network cable in the place.

 

[Edit] My drawings are all for me as parts and not designs for customers. The result being that they are included in a job but not actually billable. So the sooner I get a working solution [ note I didn't say drawing ] the better off the bottom line is.

Edited By John Stevenson on 25/08/2016 23:47:37

Enough!26/08/2016 01:24:25
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Posted by John Stevenson on 25/08/2016 23:18:56:

Yes I have computers, CAD and CAM but no internet access.

Why do you need the detraction of the internet ?

So discussion of a Wi-Fi and Cat-5 connection is synonymous with "internet" for you? Not for me.

I occasionally do access the internet from the shop to look up some data that I need to do a job and don't have or find out whether a local store has something in stock, but most of my computing while there is CAD and (local) information lookup. However, all the CAD files are on network drives (and therefore available from any other machine in the house) .... along with other data files, manuals, catalogs, various plans, pics etc etc etc ....so I need LAN access whether it be by Cat-5 (my choice) or Wi-Fi.

Farmboy26/08/2016 08:44:13
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Posted by John Stevenson on 25/08/2016 23:06:50:

I can remember the days [ just] when you went into the shed to make something.

Having read all the above posts it now makes me more aware that this forum seems to have the highest noise to signal ratio [ no typo ]

Edited By John Stevenson on 25/08/2016 23:07:19

No need to rub salt in the wounds. It's bad enough having a workshop I rarely get time to play in.

My ethernet connection is purely for cctv purposes, the last thing I want is to browse the web when I'm in there.

Mind you, the only time I've seen intruders in the yard they were running away from the camera , having just exited the bull's pen! teeth 2

jaCK Hobson26/08/2016 09:03:55
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To add more noise. I just use my phone as a wireless access point, or directly for internet radio. I usually forget to put the radio on.

duncan webster14/07/2022 20:02:45
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In similar vein: My router is a long way from the TV, and there are a couple of substantial brick walls in the way, so I ran a CAT5 cable direct. Now we've got a Chromecast, but it hasn't got a wired input, only wifi. I used to have a gadget into which you plugged the wire from the Router which then gave several wired outputs and re-broadcast the wifi, but I've no idea where it got to, and I can't remember what it was called. Anyone got any ideas, then I can buy another one

Stuart Smith 514/07/2022 20:08:27
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Duncan

What you are looking for is a WiFi access point. I just did a google search and Curry’s have one for under £15.

Stuart

Edited By Stuart Smith 5 on 14/07/2022 20:08:46

Steviegtr14/07/2022 22:54:21
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Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 25/08/2016 14:23:48:

Hi, I need WiFi in my shed. Shed is out of radio range of the ORANGE router, so can't use a Wi Fi booster. I don't want to use a mains setup, as the house is 3 phase (common neutral). Ideally I can run twisted pair cat 5 underground cable in an existing duct, from the Orange router, but what sort of Wifi thing do I need in the workshop?
BobH

This one after trying a few works just fine , & my workshop is a wayze from the house router & it works great. See pic. Not expensive either. Netgear.

Steve.

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Speedy Builder515/07/2022 08:26:29
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Steve, I have a 3 phase installation, just like you. You just need to use the same phase + neutral for the extender as the router uses.

Howi15/07/2022 08:46:03
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As no one seems to have mentioned it, any router/access point can be set up with the same SSID and password as your existing router so you will not have to change your settings on your wifi devices. I have my phone set up the same so I can use it as an access point.

John Doe 215/07/2022 10:18:16
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Posted by Muzzer on 25/08/2016 16:41:29:

"if a powerline router can clone your house wi-fi then so can anyone else". Hmm, only if they sneak into your house and press the clone button on both units.

If you really are paranoid - or are actually developing national secrets in your shed then perhaps - you need to remove the internet router because somebody can hack that. At some point you have to stop taking yourself too seriously and get into the shed and do some machining.

But, if you insist, there are Powerline-only versions.

Edited By Muzzer on 25/08/2016 16:42:41

I don't think people are necessarily paranoid by wanting to be secure. Car theft and house burglaries are well down, but fraud via email and the internet are rapidly increasing.

Many people - and companies, who should know better - are unaware of the risks and dangers, and send personal data via email, or set very simple, guessable passwords, or leave them at the default ones.

Once someone gets into your system, it is not crooks streaming movies on your contract that you should worry about, it is what they could find out about you in your computer to their potential advantage.

Oldiron15/07/2022 10:18:57
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You can run a cat5 cable as described and use an old router in the shed as a wifi unit with a little setup change. Plenty of howto's online. I have an old BT hub6 in my loft to extend the wifi to the bedrooms. Works a treat.

regards

Oops Howi beat me too it.

Edited By Oldiron on 15/07/2022 10:20:43

Nicholas Farr15/07/2022 10:45:29
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Hi, I don't know about newer routers, but older ones came with default passwords, which apparently hackers can find out what they are and remotely change them so they have control, so it is best to change the password on your router if the installation instructions don't tell you to do so.

Regards Nick.

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