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J Hancock16/06/2015 13:56:21
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In the beginning, the ' blackouts' will only occur on the very coldest winter days when the wind isn't blowing.

This should give you enough forewarning not to start on long ,fine feed facing, or longtitudinal cuts.

Electricity will go first, but the pilgrims will have realised that domestic gas supply will be maintained to the very last. Therefore, anyone seriously considering standby power should try to use gas as the primary fuel.

Black Cat216/06/2015 13:57:37
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Michael.I have a Rutland 12v wind charger and a solar panel with 3 deep cycle leisure batteries..I rarely need the engine to assist in battery charging but I dont have washing machine/widescreen and so on..As far as the lathe is concerned I ll probably stay put and keep the landline for it..I do plug a battery charger in twice a week but so far have spent 60 p in 5 months on it..
Michael Gilligan16/06/2015 14:13:34
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Posted by Black Cat2 on 16/06/2015 13:57:37:
Michael.I have a Rutland 12v wind charger and a solar panel with 3 deep cycle leisure batteries..I rarely need the engine to assist in battery charging ...

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Excellent: Just the sort of thing we need to know

Thanks

MichaelG.

Manofkent16/06/2015 14:21:13
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In "the good old days" some lathes were powered directly from the pulley on a petrol or Diesel engine.

V8Eng16/06/2015 15:20:35
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With all the Steam Engines that seem to get built by Model Engineers, I would have expected somebody to suggest steam power by now.

richardandtracy16/06/2015 15:29:37
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Trying to avoid falling into an obvious trap... That's my excuse, & I'm sticking to it.

Regards,

Richard

V8Eng16/06/2015 16:24:04
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smileywink

Black Cat216/06/2015 17:46:45
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Is there some way of damping the power strokes from a low revving engine-800 rpm to drive a lathe..I had wondered about the Drummond and Wolseley paired up.?
Neil Wyatt16/06/2015 18:46:44
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Er... a flywheel?

Black Cat216/06/2015 20:09:52
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Ha ha..alright..I did nt know
It would be enough on its own!
richardandtracy17/06/2015 10:18:46
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Don't think you'd want to power it with one of those hit & miss engines though. The speed variation is visible/audible even to an untrained eye/ear.

Regards,

Richard

Gordon W17/06/2015 10:38:55
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I would not like to run a lathe direct from a big single cylinder engine, esp. a diesel. I'm basing this on my experience of running a saw mill, 36" dia blade, with a Petter diesel. Engine slows down under load until the governor picks up. Under continuous cut it was fine. A long belt is a big help, mine was a 2" flat belt about 6 ft c/c and could have been twice that. My thinking is to change to DC motors and run of a battery or 4, need not be expensive if you get 2nd hand motors.

Neil Wyatt17/06/2015 11:20:45
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It may not be the best way, but for 40 or 50 years, an awful lot of hobbyists and small jobbing shops ran lathes on small petrol engines of almost any type, so it must be practical.

Neil

Lambton17/06/2015 11:37:03
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Any lathe powered by an internal combustion engine, petrol or diesel, will require a clutch so that the lathe spindle can be stopped and started at will without having to start or stop the engine.

Gordon W17/06/2015 11:53:52
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I find small engines react quicker on the governor, that helps a bit. My first lathe, and the saw bench, had fast and loose pulleys, simple and work well. I suppose technically a clutch?

Swarf, Mostly!17/06/2015 13:19:28
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In my amateur radio days, our club used to run its National Field Day stations from a single cylinder diesel generator. Although our usual site was fairly rural, there were houses within earshot, especially at night when the ambient sound level was otherwise low. We attempted to confine the diesel noise by 'circling the wagons' around the generator with three or four cars. It owed more to wishful thinking than to acoustics!

The diesel noise is predominantly low frequency, difficult to silence, and I used to wonder whether the noise from a gas turbine, being higher in frequency, might be easier to suppress. It would have been interesting to lay hands on an ex-aircraft APU but I had no idea whether such an item would have been available, from where and at what cost!

Drag racers seem to get quite large gas turbines from somewhere so it must be possible.

Another big unknown was the maintenance burden for an APU. Do they run for the whole duration of a flight or just until the main engines are running?

Oh, well, interesting but not on my project list anymore!!!

Best regards,

Swarf, Mostly!

Edited By Swarf, Mostly! on 17/06/2015 13:20:18

Lambton17/06/2015 14:06:30
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What about a perpetual motion machine ? It would cost nothing to run and go on forever !

Gordon W17/06/2015 16:40:40
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You could try and harness the worm.

J Hancock17/06/2015 19:48:46
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We are left with either, buying an old dis-used watermill, or windmill, or moving to Iceland ( thermal ).

Do you see where this is going and doesn't it show you how dependent we are on our utilities and

what an utter mess we will be in ( soon ) ?

Black Cat217/06/2015 20:00:22
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I m keeping my boat..At least it goes up and down with the water level!
My water filter is even good enough to filter river water except ,unfortunately for the chemicals in it..
Still need a shoreline for the lathe though!

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