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Michael Gilligan13/05/2015 22:21:29
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Phil,

Thanks for the copious detail

To be honest, I'm way out of my comfort zone ... I just liked the subject, as a stereo card; but it seems only right to investigate a little.

Very interesting that Rik said he had seen the card before [there is no studio name or anything embossed on it, so I had assumed it to be an amateur's work].

MichaelG.

Michael Gilligan14/05/2015 09:01:28
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Phil, et al

I have just noticed a handwritten caption [appears to have been written on the negative] at lower left.

L.S.W.R. is visible by eye but a 1200dpi scan, and a little tweak to the brightness and contrast revealed this:

stereo_loco002x.jpg

The extra letters appear to be E.C.B.

... Does that mean anything to you? [or are they the photographer's initials blush]

MichaelG.

Neil Wyatt14/05/2015 09:11:45
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Doh! We all get full marks for observation then!

Neil

Weary14/05/2015 09:36:02
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Adams 380 class??

**LINK**

Scroll down to pic 218.

 

Knowing it is LSWR should allow location identification as probable route known.

 

Regards, Phil

Edited By Weary on 14/05/2015 09:37:42

John Stevenson14/05/2015 09:45:55
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Posted by Weary on 13/05/2015 21:49:55:

MichaelG

If UK - but refer to posting by Rik Shaw above at 18:01:37 suggesting French origin:

The headcode the locomotive is carrying: two white diamonds, one centrally, one on right upper position would conform with a LSWR locomotive routed:

Salisbury, Southampton West & Portsmouth via Netley.
Dorchester & Bournemouth Central.
Waterloo & Virginia Water, via Main line

Refer No:24 here: **LINK**

However the locomotive appears to be additionally carrying a single lamp in the left upper position.

(May indicate number 44 on the schema.)

Further to my earlier posting don't think that Highland Railway used 'routing indicators' of this type.

Might be worth considering LSWR locomotives??

The large cab-front 'look-outs' are quite distinctive, and the lining appears to be a lighter colour surrounded by a darker colour. The boiler hand-rail running over the top of the smokebox-front and sand-boxes built into and ahead of front driving splashers might help identification. Certainly looks like a 4-4-0 wheel configuration.

Regards, Phil

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GOOD GOD MAN.

You need to get out more.smiley

Weary14/05/2015 11:51:41
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Hello Mr Stevenson,

Have just returned from 'out'.

Peeing down 'out', = absolutely soaked. Grossly overrated so far as I am concerned.

*chuckles*

Regards, Phil.

Ian S C14/05/2015 13:33:01
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Just after the E,C.B there appears tobe the numbers 35, and there maybe something in front of the letters.

In the early days of film camera, Kodak had one known as the "Autographic"(I'v got my Grandfathers one), it has a little door on the back, and a little scriber, the idea was that when you took the photo you opened the door, and using the scriber, labled the picture, this came out similar to the marks on the above photo.

Ian S C

Ed Duffner14/05/2015 15:38:52
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Played with a few Filters in photoshop and the B could also be 'R', 'P' or 'n' Eastern Counties Railways perhaps?

E.C.R info: **LINK**

Ed.

Michael Gilligan14/05/2015 20:52:31
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Ian and Ed

Many thanks for the input ... this could turn into an interesting puzzle

We all remember Antonioni's film 'Blow Up' dont we !

Ian: I'm pretty sure that the writing on the negative would be ink, rather than the pressure effect of an Autographic stylus ... There are quite obvious blobs visible within the lines.

Ed: I would certainly accept R as a possibility

If anyone would like a copy of the .psd file of that crop to play with, just send me a PM with your eMail address.

MichaelG.

Neil Wyatt14/05/2015 22:14:01
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I tried multiple ways of processing it. I think it is E.C.R and that the 'numbers' are an artefact.

Neil

Michael Gilligan14/05/2015 22:28:41
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 14/05/2015 22:14:01:

I tried multiple ways of processing it. I think it is E.C.R and that the 'numbers' are an artefact.

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Me too [hence the reference to Blow Up]

MichaelG.

Ed Duffner14/05/2015 23:58:46
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A bit of Googling came up with a possible matching loco. 4-4-0 Adams 460 class.

**LINK** ...scroll down to photo 222.

Ed.

 

PS. I just noticed Weary's post after posting this last one. laugh

Edited By Ed Duffner on 15/05/2015 00:02:03

Michael Gilligan15/05/2015 08:44:43
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Posted by Weary on 13/05/2015 21:49:55:

Refer No:24 here: **LINK**

However the locomotive appears to be additionally carrying a single lamp in the left upper position.

(May indicate number 44 on the schema.)

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Phil,

Returning to your excellent diagnosis ...

a google search for the text at 44 led me to this page

Edit: and a tiny thumbnail picture here.

MichaelG.

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Drummond 7xx series T9 class 4-4-0 (Locos 702 - 732 and 773 by Dübs 1899-1901) on Ascot race train, headcode is Members and 1st Class Race Train via East Putney and Twickenham. Location not identified. Train consists of arc roofed 6 wheel stock. No conductor rails in place.

 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 15/05/2015 08:46:26

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 15/05/2015 08:49:09

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 15/05/2015 08:59:09

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