John Bromley | 28/09/2014 21:58:26 |
84 forum posts | Another vote for old carpet from me. Theres always people throwing out old carpets. When they get too cruddy and swarf filled, change 'em. I also like having a couple of pieces handy for laying on under the car. I have a lovely medium pile coffee job at the moment. John |
Vic | 28/09/2014 23:19:49 |
3453 forum posts 23 photos | Bob, Screwfix own brand floor paint is cheap as chips and gets good reviews. Chances are you'd only need to touch up the areas where you walk every now and then. |
Howard Lewis | 30/09/2014 17:37:01 |
7227 forum posts 21 photos | Agree that some form of paint is needed to minimise dust problems. But bare, even painted, concrete will be cold in the winter. Don't look at the prices in Cromwell Tools, unless you have a strong heart and are sitting down! Some time ago, Toys R Us were selling 1 Metre square perforated rubber mats, about 25mm thick (intended to catch toddlers coming down slides, presumably) fairly cheaply. The mat could be cut in half to provide a two Metre strip of matting, 500 mm wide. Standing on them will be warmer, and more comfortable for your feet. (I have something similar in hard plastic - donated as nil value scrap from work), warm comfortable, and the swarf drops through, so they only need to be lifted for for cleaning underneath about every six months or so. Also tends to restrict the movement of dropped 6 BA washers and the like, so making locating and retrieval a bit easier. AND, you are far less likely to be accused of bringing "that dirty stuff (presumably swarf /oil etc) into the house" Howard |
Bob Brown 1 | 30/09/2014 20:58:26 |
![]() 1022 forum posts 127 photos | I did find this stuff **LINK** to paint the floor, a couple of coats should do the trick, now what colour? This will allow me time to sort out what to stand on or place around the machines and work benches. Now where's that cement mixer for the concrete, best get the roof finished first. Bob |
Clive Foster | 30/09/2014 22:09:09 |
3630 forum posts 128 photos | Bob When I built my 16 ft by 32 ft concrete floored workshop getting on for 10 years back I was advised to use the green waterproof chipboard underflooring commonly used in housebuilding as the floor covering. Said to be relatively inexpensive, durable and reasonably comfortable to walk on. Its worked out well so far. A few oil stains and a couple of weld splatter burns but functionally as good as when it was laid. Admittedly somewhat faded but I guess I could paint it if it ever bothered me. Its had various coolant and water spillages but no sign of any deterioration from that source. Not even when the Smart and Brown 1024 lathe coolant tank decided to spring a major leak and dumped several gallons of 30:1 water / Rocol Ultracut mix overnight. Machines stand directly on it with no problem. Timber workshop is built on a brick wall extending 1 brick above highest adjacent ground level with proper foundations underneath and DPC. Floor is infilled to top of bricks being 1 ft re-enforced concrete on 2" insulation boards over type 1 fill with the proper membrane. The flooring sheets were nail-gunned down after engaging the tongue and groove joints liberally anointed with PVA. I probably wiped and scraped off about twice as much as stayed in the joints but I wanted the floor sealed. I took some care getting the underlying concrete level so its less than 10 thou per foot out in the worst spot. Its decent to walk on. Not cold. Cleaning is a Henry'n brush job. Can't be doing with carpets, mats, fancy anti-fatigue things and stuff that has to be picked up and shaken before dusting out underneath. Duckboards bring out my inner Donald Duck! Arranged some good but used carpet for the office / electronics section but never worked uo the enthusiasm to pu it down. Offcuts made nice shelving and clean work benches as its slightly rough. Not abrasive but just enough to stop things sliding everywhere. Gotta be the green stuff. The brown "just as good" which my local builders merchant tried to fob us off with when we went back for more is rubbish. Dusty to cut, soft on top and not fully water resistant.
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Russ B | 30/09/2014 22:16:01 |
635 forum posts 34 photos | Epoxy? or what about Polyurethane - 3 times the wear resistance of epoxy, easy to apply and oil, grease and petrol resistant and also easier to mix with anti slip aggregate. I'd recommend this as an interesting read, weighing up the pros and cons of Epoxy & Polyurethane - interesting reading if nothing else. This seems to be a website dedicated to all aspects of Workshop flooring construction, coating, painting and care/cleaning. I didn't realise there was a difference between epoxy floor coating and epoxy floor paint - apparently there is.... Edited By Russ B on 30/09/2014 22:21:45 |
Russ B | 30/09/2014 22:17:49 |
635 forum posts 34 photos | Ohh, and no - I don't know what the kick boxers at the top of the article have to do with the price of tea in China..... |
Douglas Johnston | 01/10/2014 09:51:23 |
![]() 814 forum posts 36 photos | I floored my workshop with the green flooring grade chipboard about 8 years ago and gave it two coats of anti-slip floor paint (the stuff with sand in the mix ) and it has been very good. Chips don't stick to it and it brushes clean very easily. Just this year I gave it another coat although only a few areas really needed it. When I bought the chipboard it was pretty cheap, but I see the price of all wood products has increased considerably since then. Doug |
Ian S C | 01/10/2014 10:06:23 |
![]() 7468 forum posts 230 photos | As for chip board (don't know about other countries) here in NZ, if you can get to a joinery factory or similar the chip board they get on a pellet has a sheet of chip board top and bottom, these cover boards are a couple of inches longer, and wider than standard, some places sell them quite cheaply, others like my local joinery factory give them away, think its 18 mm, and usually have a scratch or two. Ian S C |
Tony Ray | 01/10/2014 12:50:55 |
238 forum posts 47 photos | Bob, FWIW this is my experience. My workshop is 5.5 X 4.5M so not dissimilar to yours in area. I had my builder lay expanded polystyrene under the slab and a DPM - you'll have to look up the exact details you'll need. I have no issues with a cold floor and I suffer with cold feet. Nor do I have any problems with cracking or floor loading. Were you joking about mixing the concrete ? I ask as the ready mixed stuff is so much more consistent and reliable and you'll need a lot of it. Finally I finished it off with water based epoxy. With all floor paint it is important to get a good bond with the substrate so I etched mine with phosphoric acid as per Bradite instructions. Neutralisation and waiting for the slab to fully dry out before and after etching and after application are important. Having worked in the food industry and seen a lot of floor paint I can't subscribe to the view that polyurethane is more hard wearing. For me epoxy is the paint of choice - you can buy a solvent based version that's a bit cheaper . Good floor paint is not cheap but do it well and do it once
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John McNamara | 01/10/2014 16:31:47 |
![]() 1377 forum posts 133 photos | My workshop floor is concrete coated with paving paint it has stood up extremely well and is easy to repair in areas such as where I stand in front of a machine. When the concrete was poured it was finished with stone dust and raw cement sprinkled on the top of the wet concrete and steel trowled to a polished finish. You can also get epoxy finishes that will self level a rough concrete floor. I wear thick soled runners (sneakers) to insulate the cold from the floor. they do pick up swarf so I take them off when I leave the workshop. In cold weather I have small mats to stand on, most of the time it is not needed. The advantage of concrete is it is easy to clean. |
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