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Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 10:57:34
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Can anyone please tell me the most compact lathe which would accept a D1-3 chuck? ... either a proper CamLock fitting, or is there an alternative that keeps the big tapered nose, but replaces the lock-pins with bolts ??

Thanks

MichaelG.

Bob Brown 106/08/2014 11:07:43
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I doubt there are any "compact" lathes that have a D1-3 headstock. What are you trying to achieve?

Nick_G06/08/2014 11:15:22
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I know the Harrison M250 has a D1-3 headstock and this range of Boxfords does **LINK**

I suppose it depends upon your definition of 'compact'.? I have one of those Boxfords which for model engineering could not be considered compact. But a friend of mine who runs a machine shop considers it to be a baby lathe.

Nick

John Stevenson06/08/2014 11:43:24
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chipmaster ?

JasonB06/08/2014 11:52:37
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The 7 & 8 series Emco lathes have a tapered nose but use studs and nuts rather than cams if its the short taper fitting you are after.

Prazimat also has the short taper but a keyhole type flange which just needs the nuts nipping up

Edited By JasonB on 06/08/2014 11:56:29

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 11:55:33
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Posted by Bob Brown 1 on 06/08/2014 11:07:43:

I doubt there are any "compact" lathes that have a D1-3 headstock. What are you trying to achieve?

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Bob,

What I am trying to achieve, is the use of a Burnerd MultiSze Collet Chuch [which I already own] in the small space which I have available.

If I had the space, I would probably just buy a Chipmaster, or a Kerry [both of which I have used and liked], but I do not have the space, and I only need a small "working envelope" ... i.e. I don't want, or need a big machine, but I do want to use this chuck.

MichaelG.

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P.S. ... I may consider buying just a headstock, and building a "Bitza"

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 11:57:12
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Posted by John Stevenson on 06/08/2014 11:43:24:

chipmaster ?

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John,

That would probably be my first choice, but I don't have the space.

Thanks

MichaelG.

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 11:58:36
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Posted by JasonB on 06/08/2014 11:52:37:

The 7 & 8 series Emco lathes have a tapered nose but use studs and nuts rather than cams if its the short taper fitting you are after.

Prazimat also has the short taper but a keyhole type flange which just needs the nuts nipping up

Edited By JasonB on 06/08/2014 11:56:29

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Thanks, Jason

I will investigate.

MichaelG.

JasonB06/08/2014 11:59:43
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Just saw your other post, its a different taper so no use to you

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 12:04:10
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Posted by Nick_G on 06/08/2014 11:15:22:

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I suppose it depends upon your definition of 'compact'.?

Nick

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Thanks, Nick

I think I've covered "compact" in my reply to Bob. ... If it would just clear the Chuck body, and take [say] 12" between the face of the collet and a tailstock centre; that would be plenty big enough.

MichaelG. ... [just looking for inspiration]

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 12:05:05
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Posted by JasonB on 06/08/2014 11:59:43:

Just saw your other post, its a different taper so no use to you

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Thanks anyway.

Bob Brown 106/08/2014 12:20:00
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I think you best bet may be to make up an adapter plate that once you remove the locking pins allows the chuck to be mounted/bolted on one of the compact lathe back plates, blanks are cheap enough.

Details of the D3-1 mount is here **LINK**

Bob

Edited By Bob Brown 1 on 06/08/2014 12:40:01

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 13:06:39
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Sorry, Bob, but that is not what I want.

I want a proper headstock spindle in big bearings, that is made to the appropriate level of precision.

MichaelG.

Bob Brown 106/08/2014 13:11:02
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How much space are we talking about?

John Stevenson06/08/2014 13:11:40
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2014 11:55:33:
Posted by Bob Brown 1 on 06/08/2014 11:07:43:

I doubt there are any "compact" lathes that have a D1-3 headstock. What are you trying to achieve?

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Bob,

What I am trying to achieve, is the use of a Burnerd MultiSze Collet Chuch [which I already own] in the small space which I have available.

If I had the space, I would probably just buy a Chipmaster, or a Kerry [both of which I have used and liked], but I do not have the space, and I only need a small "working envelope" ... i.e. I don't want, or need a big machine, but I do want to use this chuck.

MichaelG.

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P.S. ... I may consider buying just a headstock, and building a "Bitza"

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Surely a bit like finding a crutch in the gutter and breaking your leg so as to make full use of it ?

Old School06/08/2014 13:12:45
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Myford 254 but not really a compact

JasonB06/08/2014 13:15:19
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A Bantam probably has a slightly smaller footprint than a chipmaster as the stand goes straight down rather than flaring out

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 13:20:19
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2014 10:57:34:

Can anyone please tell me the most compact lathe which would accept a D1-3 chuck?

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Bob,

Space is at an absolute premium... which is why I specifically asked regarding "the most compact lathe which would accept a D1-3 chuck"

This chuck has lain unused for over twenty years and [prompted by my discussions with Nick, on another thread], I have finally decided to find a way of using it.

MichaelG.

Nick_G06/08/2014 13:36:05
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2014 13:20:19:
[prompted by my discussions with Nick, on another thread], I have finally decided to find a way of using it.

MichaelG.

I get the blame for everything.!!!! devil

Why should here be any different.? cheeky

Nick winkwinkwink

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 13:41:49
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Posted by John Stevenson on 06/08/2014 13:11:40

Surely a bit like finding a crutch in the gutter and breaking your leg so as to make full use of it ?

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Quite possibly, John

... or maybe like making a Buell because you had a Harley Davidson engine available?

[feel free to subsitute other engine/frame combinations according to taste]

MichaelG.

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