Warco Economy Mill

Hi everyone

I have just got a decent looking warco economy mill for £50 but needs a few things.

1. no belts

2. height adjustment handle missing.

3. possibly might need other things fixing like bearings etc

Anyone know where or what type of belts and handle i would need.

Thanks

Edited By jay g on 05/09/2023 19:23:07

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Edited By jay g on 05/09/2023 19:35:29

I'm afraid the standard belts won't be of much use without the missing pulley set.

Edited By Dave Halford on 05/09/2023 19:55:06

A couple of more important bits that are missing are;

..the intermediate cone pulley and it's bracket (which fits around the column)

..and the rack for raising the head..

Do you or the previous owner have them?

Edited By DiogenesII on 05/09/2023 19:52:10

You also seem to be missing the entire jockey pulley assembly. This is a four step pulley that is mounted so it can swivel round the main pillar and give you all 8 speeds. There is a manual for the RF20 and 25 here: MANUAL that should help you as this is the "generic" machine type that you have.

Edited By Bizibilder on 05/09/2023 19:53:40

Thanks guys for the knowledge. I don't have the missing parts and i doubt the seller does as it's sold as is. Did i just waste £50 or you reckon it's still worth trying to get it fixed up if possible to find the parts.

Well worth getting some power to the spindle and fix the rest with some TLC.

Emgee

It is worth way more than £50. Any 4 step pulley and a bit of engine-uity can sort out the drive. Measure the belts needed once you have that sorted out.
I would use a scissor jack for lifting the head for the time being. You can make a rack using your lathe as an horizontal mill because it can be very low precision and even made in sections.

Looking about i see 4 step pulleys around the £30-60 and could knock up a bracket with some plate so not as bad as i thought.

Will keep you all updated as it moves along.

Thanks everyone that replied

Don't pay that much for a pulley. It could be more than you paid for the machine!

Tell me what pulley you need and I'll take a look to see if I have a spare. The price will be reasonable.

A-section belt? Bore size? Do you have a lathe?

Edited By AJAX on 05/09/2023 23:06:44

If you have a look at the 'Grizzly' tools website you should still be able to download a parts list, drawing & manual for their version of the same machine..

Grizzly Tools G1005Z

..it might not help you much as a source of spares, but at least you can see what things are called and how it goes together / what's missing.

These machines were quite popular in their day and widely offered, I think as well as Warco, both Chester and Sealey also sold versions of the same machine.

The belts listed for the RF25 Mill Drill are Primary is an A31, (A790MC ) and Secondary is an A38 (A990MC )

Presumably the figures in brackets are the Metric size equivalents.

But you need nthe correct size pulley for the Intermediate Jockey.

The pulley sheaves are numbered 1, 2, 3,4 with 1 as the top sheave on the Spindle pulley.

The top sheave on the motor pulley is 5, with 8 being the lowest.

Having measured the pulley sizes, the speeds may enable yhou to workout the sizes of the Intermediate pulley, from the speed ratios.

Belt Positions / Speeds for RF25 Mill / Drill follow in the next two posts

Sorry that the table overlaps the page. Wasn't like lthat when copied.

Howard

Edited By Howard Lewis on 06/09/2023 19:39:19

Belt Positions / Speeds for RF25 Mill / Drill

Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 07/09/2023 10:31:53

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Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 07/09/2023 11:06:58

They were also branded as Alpine and sold by independent retailers

They were also branded as Alpine and sold by independent retailers

Apologies if posting my tables of speeds has messed up the formatting of this thread

Howard

At the end of the day most of us end up using a small number of cutter sizes you may find 3 speeds enough.

No problem, a forum quirk. I was able to fix it by setting table properties width to 500 pixels fixed. Shouldn't have been necessary: your tables are correct in edit mode, but not when displayed in the thread.

Dave