Tony sacc | 17/08/2023 05:10:56 |
69 forum posts 74 photos |
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John Haine | 17/08/2023 07:05:13 |
5563 forum posts 322 photos | Nice! |
Thor 🇳🇴 | 17/08/2023 08:28:39 |
![]() 1766 forum posts 46 photos | Well, I think a drill sharpening jig is useful. I use a drill sharpening jig I bought decades ago, it works - sort of. Thor |
Tony sacc | 17/08/2023 09:37:36 |
69 forum posts 74 photos | I agree, I'm just lazy, can't be bothered digging it out of the box. Of course I've been hand sharpening drill bits since I was 15, that was 57 years ago, I just find it easier and quicker. |
Bazyle | 17/08/2023 10:10:50 |
![]() 6956 forum posts 229 photos | Looks nice . If you had labelled the box 'Made in Sheffield' you could be sure it would be valued after your death and still in use in fifty years. As is it will end up in China, in a consignment of scrap going to the furnace. |
Andrew Johnston | 17/08/2023 10:56:56 |
![]() 7061 forum posts 719 photos | Being truly lazy I just buy new drills, at least in small sizes, say less than 1/2". Andrew |
Tony sacc | 17/08/2023 11:27:55 |
69 forum posts 74 photos | That must cost you a bomb. I don't know about prices where you are, but in Oz a 10mm HSS is around $14. Cobalt, which I mostly use, are twice that. That's around £7, £14 for cobalt. |
Andrew Johnston | 17/08/2023 21:38:35 |
![]() 7061 forum posts 719 photos | In the UK a 10mm HSS TiN 4-facet drill is around £6. Most of the replacement drills I buy are less than 6mm, so a pound or two. I run my drills fairly hard so they are normally beyond a simple resharpen when replaced. If I really need to resharpen a drill then I can do it by hand, or use the Clarkson T&C cutter grinder and drill and tap accessory. Andrew |
Bill Phinn | 17/08/2023 22:44:22 |
1076 forum posts 129 photos | Nice work on the jig, Tony. It's a big one too. Credit to you for trying Chinese characters as well, though you've wrongly divided the first two characters into four by separating the radicals from the rest of each character, and the Chinese isn't really idiomatic, e.g. ç†åˆ€ means pen-knife, which is not really a jig, is it? Also this Chinese machinist, in talking about grinding or sharpening drills, uses the common verb 磨 rather than 削, as you have done. See the video from 26 minutes in. Edited By Bill Phinn on 17/08/2023 22:47:07 |
Tony sacc | 18/08/2023 04:08:28 |
69 forum posts 74 photos | Its just my attempt at Chinglish. At least it doesn't actually say F off. I passed it by a Chinese girl who spoke Cantonese, she didn't know, said it was maybe something like drill sharpener. So apparently event the Chinese can't speak Chinese, Cantonese or Mandarin. Maybe,the Chinese are like the Malays, and have two versions of their language, one spoken by the well educated, the other spoken by market people. Edited By Tony sacc on 18/08/2023 04:13:09 |
Bill Phinn | 18/08/2023 14:40:12 |
1076 forum posts 129 photos | Posted by Tony sacc on 18/08/2023 04:08:28:
Maybe,the Chinese are like the Malays, and have two versions of their language, one spoken by the well educated, the other spoken by market people.
There are hundreds of mutually unintelligible Chinese dialects, Fortunately, however, there is also such a thing as standard Mandarin Chinese, based on the Beijing dialect, which a large number of speakers of other dialects can also communicate in to greater or lesser extents. Posted by Tony sacc on 18/08/2023 04:08:28:
I passed it by a Chinese girl who spoke Cantonese, she didn't know, said it was maybe something like drill sharpener. So apparently event the Chinese can't speak Chinese, Cantonese or Mandarin. I'm unsure how this experience leads you to conclude that the Chinese girl couldn't speak Chinese; her confusion was probably largely a result of the highly non-standard nature of the written Chinese you presented her with. She also probaby didn't want you to lose face by telling you, to your face, what I was less hesitant in telling you about it. Incidentally, an appeal to all readers: please never emulate newsreaders and others who pronounce the "j" in Beijing like in the French "je" etc. There is no such sound in Mandarin. The Chinese Pinyin consonant "j" is pronounced, very straightforwardly, like the "j in the English word "jingle". |
Tony sacc | 18/08/2023 23:58:04 |
69 forum posts 74 photos | Blah, blah, blah. Edited By Tony sacc on 18/08/2023 23:59:06 |
Andrew Johnston | 19/08/2023 13:39:33 |
![]() 7061 forum posts 719 photos | Posted by Tony sacc on 18/08/2023 23:58:04:
Blah, blah, blah. Now I see why the OP wrote in his profile that he'd never taken a class in anything. Bored now, so going to carry on making parts on the repetition lathe. Andrew |
Tony sacc | 20/08/2023 13:01:04 |
69 forum posts 74 photos | I think that people who have to be taught everything are lacking imagination and the ability to think for themselves. . If you have to be taught how to do everything, you're just repeating other's mistakes,you'll never learn and you'll never be better than those you learnt from. So, think for yourself, dare to be better yourself. I've spent a lifetime fixing tradesmen's stuff ups. Same goes for those who work from plans,you're just copying someone else's work, think for yourself, design something yourself, don't cheat!. I'm sure you'll all hate this, sorry no apologies! |
Baz | 20/08/2023 13:51:29 |
1033 forum posts 2 photos | Must be nice to be so bl**dy wonderful, I am just a mere mortal, I had to do an apprenticeship for five years and seven years at college to learn from others and I build from plans so obviously I am too stupid to think for myself, I have never used the ignore member feature of this site but in your case I will make an exception. |
Michael Gilligan | 20/08/2023 14:00:23 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Bill Phinn on 18/08/2023 14:40:12: . There are hundreds […] . Thanks for an informative post, Bill MichaelG. |
Tony sacc | 20/08/2023 23:30:44 |
69 forum posts 74 photos | Posted by Baz on 20/08/2023 13:51:29:
Must be nice to be so bl**dy wonderful, I am just a mere mortal, I had to do an apprenticeship for five years and seven years at college to learn from others and I build from plans so obviously I am too stupid to think for myself, I have never used the ignore member feature of this site but in your case I will make an exception. Thank you! BTW, I'm not Bl@@dy wonderful at all, just ask the members of this group. However, I do have imagination and can think for myself. Edited By Tony sacc on 20/08/2023 23:36:19 |
Dave Halford | 21/08/2023 11:11:26 |
2536 forum posts 24 photos | Posted by Tony sacc on 18/08/2023 04:08:28:
Its just my attempt at Chinglish. At least it doesn't actually say F off. I passed it by a Chinese girl who spoke Cantonese, she didn't know, said it was maybe something like drill sharpener. So apparently event the Chinese can't speak Chinese, Cantonese or Mandarin. Maybe,the Chinese are like the Malays, and have two versions of their language, one spoken by the well educated, the other spoken by market people. Edited By Tony sacc on 18/08/2023 04:13:09 No Tony it's just that you can't write any form of Chinese properly and I wonder how that XS 650 got built without drawings. |
Tony sacc | 21/08/2023 12:43:43 |
69 forum posts 74 photos | Posted by Dave Halford on 21/08/2023 11:11:26:
Posted by Tony sacc on 18/08/2023 04:08:28:
Its just my attempt at Chinglish. At least it doesn't actually say F off. I passed it by a Chinese girl who spoke Cantonese, she didn't know, said it was maybe something like drill sharpener. So apparently event the Chinese can't speak Chinese, Cantonese or Mandarin. Maybe,the Chinese are like the Malays, and have two versions of their language, one spoken by the well educated, the other spoken by market people. Edited By Tony sacc on 18/08/2023 04:13:09 No Tony it's just that you can't write any form of Chinese properly and I wonder how that XS 650 got built without drawings. I agree, I have no idea how to write Chinese,not even improperly, that's probably because I'm not Chinese. Just some characters I pulled off the internet. You need a drawing to build a bike? I don't know anybody who does that. I guess it's down to visualising what you're after, and dare I say it - imagination! |
SillyOldDuffer | 21/08/2023 13:48:21 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | Posted by Tony sacc on 21/08/2023 12:43:43:
Posted by Dave Halford on 21/08/2023 11:11:26:
Posted by Tony sacc on 18/08/2023 04:08:28:...
... I wonder how that XS 650 got built without drawings. ... You need a drawing to build a bike? I don't know anybody who does that. ... Wot, not even Yamaha? I think they do! Imaginative talented customisation is a very good thing, but it's not to be confused with engineering design from first principles. Try this for size. Move into an unfamiliar branch of engineering, perhaps electronics. If that's genuinely new territory, please design an electronic ignition system for the XS 650. All your own work please - do not attend a class, consult books, search the internet, or ask anyone else. We'll mark the result! Engineering from scratch is very difficult to do without plans, drawings, education, a good library, skilled support, prototyping and plenty of hard maths. Mostly done by teams, not individuals. Can take a long time too - about 200 years to get steam engines working at peak efficiency... Dave |
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