Here is a list of all the postings Tony sacc has made in our forums. Click on a thread name to jump to the thread.
Thread: Cable splitter. |
29/08/2023 07:39:55 |
A very fiddly process using the tiny adjusters, so I built this cable splitter and replaced the twin cable throttle with a single. The splitter body is aluminium bored 14mm and threaded each end, the slide is brass and the end caps are aluminium. Picture was taken before I slit sawed cable entries. When finished I plugged the holes in the end caps, assembled the unit and dunked it in my anodising bath. The finish came up rather nice. Rather than have a splitter flopping around inside the tank tunnel, I opted to fix It to the right top engine mount. I spun up some 3mm nipples, fixed them to the cables and dunked them in my solder bath. To fix the cable to the carbs and allow for butterfly adjustment, I made a couple of brackets and spun up an elongated stainless adjuster. Yes, there is a lock nut for the adjuster, just not assembled in the picture. This mod made syncing carbs a breeze. Later on I binned the carbs, bought a couple of VM34 roundside's and installed them on custom manifolds. The carbs came with a small plastic splitter, but the round slide cable pull is quite a bit longer than the BS38 cable pull, so, the splitter didn't have enough pul, it I may make a splitter for the new carbs later on. Edited By Tony sacc on 29/08/2023 07:43:50 |
Thread: When boredom overtakes, make something, anything! |
29/08/2023 07:01:56 |
Who would have thought a simple post about a drill sharpening jig would foster such ire, says a lot about the people on this site! I wonder why so many on this forum feel the need to criticise, does it make them feel superior, do they really need that to feel better about themselves. Only the Metalworking Forums members seem to have the same complex. Offering a critique is great when asked for, but just plain ignorant and self serving when it's not.
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28/08/2023 02:26:09 |
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 27/08/2023 14:10:45:
Posted by Paul Kemp on 25/08/2023 00:48:32:
I am obviously missing something somewhere. Tony posts some stuff showcasing what he does and to me it looks pretty good and somehow this turns into a slanging match telling him he is doing it all wrong for not working to drawings?... I started an earlier post by saying Tony and I were at cross-purposes! Perhaps the issue is confused? No-one is telling Tony he's doing it all wrong for not working to drawings. Rather, the gripe is Tony expresses a particular point of view strongly, saying things like : 'You need a drawing to build a bike? I don't know anybody who does that. I guess it's down to visualising what you're after, and dare I say it - imagination!' Now that's a challenge, not least because Tony implies anyone who needs a drawing lacks imagination. It happens Tony's opinion isn't 'the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth'. Tony is being rebutted because the whole truth is that most engineering isn't done Tony's way. His is only one of many techniques that engineers can apply to problem solving, and objectionable because it doesn't scale up. Teams can't work like that. The idea one shouldn't need drawings or other help is wrong. Engineers use whatever is necessary to get the job done without imposing artificial boundaries on themselves or others. They look for alternatives, and don't believe ignorance is bliss! Nothing personal, even though I think Tony's results are excellent, I don't care for purist approaches. If I want a plan, drawing, specification, risk assessment, bill of materials, CAD software, bought parts, external help or anything else, I just get on with it. My time is valuable. We all know jobs often go wrong and different approaches are needed, therefore the best workers are flexible. Tony might do even better if he learned a few tricks of the trade - even drawing. Dave
It may surprise you to know, that I have read and used plans when I was working as a.fabricator and welder, I did that for many years, however, I don't need plans, drawings, sketches when I'm working in my workshop, I have a very clear visualisation of what I want. Now if you mean tricks of the trade from the experts on this site and other sites like this - no thanks, I prefer to teach myself by actually doing, rather than listen to someone who thinks his way is the only way and the correct way. The correct way is what works for the job, not how you were taught by someone who was taught by someone else. That's the problem with experts: No imagination, no visualisation, no thinking outside the box, just do it the way you were taught to do it and don't confuse things by actually thinking for yourself. There is absolutely nothing I want to learn from people like that.
Edited By Tony sacc on 28/08/2023 02:35:16 Edited By Tony sacc on 28/08/2023 02:39:47 |
27/08/2023 12:58:09 |
Posted by Vic on 27/08/2023 12:28:37:
Posted by Michael Gilligan on 24/08/2023 15:24:53:
Vic IF the body of the 6mm drill is concentric with the pilot hole, it’s running true, and it’s only the tip a that’s badly ground … then I posit that it will simply act as a boring tool, and therefore should cut to size. Other opinions may be available MichaelG. Edited By Michael Gilligan on 24/08/2023 15:26:03 Yes thanks, this is what I assumed. If the drill is not sharpened so the tip is central, one shoulder will be shorter than the other, that side of the bit will therefore be longer and bite into the job first, deflecting the drill and bending it off to one side. The hole will therefore be at a very slight angle and slightly larger. The larger the drill, the less it will deflect, conversely, the smaller the drill, the more it will deflect. But, with smaller drill sizes the difference in cutting shoulder length will be miiniscule, so you probably wouldn't notice much of a difference. You can see this effect if you have a two way vice on your drill press, drill a hole, change to a larger drill with the tip off centre and drill, note the deflection and the shape and size of the hole. As I said before though, the difference would be miniscule and unlikely to be noticeable or affect the job.
Edited By Tony sacc on 27/08/2023 13:02:34 |
Thread: Bandsaw coolant system. |
26/08/2023 11:17:34 |
Posted by larry phelan 1 on 26/08/2023 09:09:12:
My system uses a pump from a clapped out washing machine and a spare saucepan from SWMBO. Has been working for so long now that I seldom even think about it. Spares are easy to come by ! Just wondering, why would anyone need coolant while cutting wood ??? I think there is a picture of my set up in my album. You don't need coolant when cutting wood, but when you cut wood,or plastic, you make swarf, so next time you use coolant it washes the swarf down the drain. You could always clean the table afterwards I suppose, but why bother when the coolant washes it away. Wood and plastic particles settle on top, heavier metal particles settle on the bottom. Being as the pickup tube is 30mm or so from the bottom, I don't need a divider, unnecessary complication. |
26/08/2023 11:17:33 |
Posted by larry phelan 1 on 26/08/2023 09:09:12:
My system uses a pump from a clapped out washing machine and a spare saucepan from SWMBO. Has been working for so long now that I seldom even think about it. Spares are easy to come by ! Just wondering, why would anyone need coolant while cutting wood ??? I think there is a picture of my set up in my album. You don't need coolant when cutting wood, but when you cut wood,or plastic, you make swarf, so next time you use coolant it washes the swarf down the drain. You could always clean the table afterwards I suppose, but why bother when the coolant washes it away. Wood and plastic particles settle on top, heavier metal particles settle on the bottom. Being as the pickup tube is 30mm or so from the bottom, I don't need a divider, unnecessary complication. |
26/08/2023 08:53:15 |
Well, I suppose I could have bought one from the local rubbish dump. Problem is they didn't have one, so I made my own. |
Thread: Brake line junction block. |
26/08/2023 08:47:53 |
FWIW, I could have used a single hose, stretching from the MC to the caliper, as many have done, and fitted either a mechanical switch to the lever, or a pressure switch to the banjo fitting. I decided to go with a split line with a junction in the middle simply because I liked the look and didn't want wires snaking their way up to an ugly pressure switch mounted on the end of a banjo bolt. |
26/08/2023 08:43:14 |
Posted by John Doe 2 on 25/08/2023 11:05:01:
For what its worth! I think it looks very nice, and a nice piece of machining. It looks quite complicated for what seems to be a T piece to mount a pressure switch for the brake light. Does it contain anything else, e.g. a proportioning valve?
Genuine question: What's wrong with banjo connectors? They look very neat; are they hard to bleed or something? There is absolutely nothing wrong with banjo connectors, they are used on most bike braking systems. The stock XS650 used both banjo and cup/cone connectors, either can leak given the right circumstances. It comes down to personal preference, if someone doesn't like a particular fitting then one will come up with all sorts of silly nonsense to prove to themselves the fittings aren't up to the job. There are rigid rules in effect on brake line, fittings, materials, design and so on, If a particular design is passed as safe and fit for the intended use, I'd find it hard to disagree. Then there are aesthetics, what looks good to one is just plain ugly to another, but to expect everyone to agree with you on what is pleasing to the eye is just plain ignorant. I find it always a good idea not to pass judgement, unless of course you are asked. |
26/08/2023 08:26:37 |
Well,the idea behind it was something that you can see, something that draws your eyes. You can't hide everything under a plastic cover. Have a look at the bike, if I hid everything, or made everything smaller, less noticeable, it would be a totally different bike. This is what I like, it's the look I was after, so, that's the way I built it. You'll notice, the inlet hose is on the left and the outlet pipe is on the right, the junction was made to span the width, so the outlet hose follows as straight a path as I could get down the fork leg, allowing for the up/down movement of the forks. Now if I replace the upper hose with a rigid pipe,how would I adjust the MC angle, how would I adjust the handlebar angle, how would I change the handlebars? And then there is the aesthetics: This system fits in with the design of the bike. Maybe, not to everyone's liking, but I haven't built to please everyone, just me! I have similar parts like this in areas you can't even see, but I know they are there and that pleases me. I could have made the seat more compact, the side covers less noticeable, the catch can smaller, the air filters more compact, the cooler less noticeable, the spin on filter less noticable. i could have painted the engine silver like a stock XS650, I could have painted the bike in a brighter colour, put a squarer looking tank on it, longer mudguards, painted the wheels black, made a two into one exhaust, I could have anodisedall the aluminium instead of polishing it. In short,I could have have done a lot of things differently, but still there would be someone who would suggest I could have done something different to fit In with their bike ideology. The bike follows my design philosophy, that's the way I built it, the way I like it. I'm pleased with what Ihave built.! |
Thread: Lathe tool holders. |
26/08/2023 02:24:38 |
I made some tangentias first, they work great but do tend to limitt access to some jobs, they are all built up designs welded together.from 16mm square, black bar, linished, machined on the lathe and welded together. I then made some standard type holders with various rakes to try out. They all worked great, so I never made any more. Once again, made of black bar, linished, machined on the lathe and welded together. To sharpen the bits for the tangential, I I've been using these tool holders for the last 10 years, no doubt, that's why my work is so terrible! |
Thread: Bandsaw coolant system. |
26/08/2023 01:52:35 |
I don't see the point in buying what you can make for a fraction of the cost, mine cost about $20. What did that cost? In Oz, that pump setup is $339, that's 17 times more than what mine cost. Mine has been operating for 8 years without problem. I think I'll stick to my coolant system, pocket the money, and use it for something I can't make. I have a. Similar setup on my lathe, that cost around $35 to put together. It's been operating for 10 years without problems. You'd hate it! Edited By Tony sacc on 26/08/2023 01:54:29 Edited By Tony sacc on 26/08/2023 01:54:49 Edited By Tony sacc on 26/08/2023 02:02:30 |
Thread: Brake line junction block. |
26/08/2023 00:02:49 |
Most motorcycle brake lines use banjos, I've never seen one leak or cause an accident. The original setup.on the XS650 had a banjo and hose connected to the MC, on the other end of the hose was a cup/ cone arrangement connected to a steel line which connected to the junction box via another cup/cone fitting. Then there was a banjo and hose connected to the junction box, running down the fork leg, that connected to a steel line via a cup/cone, then on down the fork leg connecting to the caliper by a another cup/cone fitting. That's six fittings and 8 sealing areas. I'll stick with banjos! |
Thread: Bandsaw coolant system. |
25/08/2023 11:29:15 |
I have a BS-5S bandsaw, bought it around 8 years ago and it has served me well. I only use carbon blades as I cut a lot of tube and RHS so bimetals tend to shed teeth a lot. The first thing I did for it was to add a coolant system. I tried a centrifugal pump first, but that didn’t last too long. The bandsaw makes a lot of very, very fine swarf which found it’s way into areas of the pump that the pump didn’t like and so the pump burnt out real fast. After that failure, I bought a gear pump, these work well on the bandsaw as the fine metal swarf doesn’t find it’s way into the motor or bearings.. I’ve mounted the pump on the rear leg of the bandsaw stand, so it’s external to the coolant tub. The coolant tub is a plastic fuel container. I drilled a hole about 30mm from the bottom, turned up a spigot and bolted it in the hole then connected the tub to the pump via a plastic tube. The pump is powered by a 12volt power adapter. I turned up a three way adapter and mounted it up by the base of the bandsaw hoop. Coolant is pumped up to the adapter, the adapter has one inlet at the bottom and two outlets above that. The coolant enters the adapter by the lower spigot and exits the adapter via the top spigot where it is fed, via a small retic hose, to the blade in front of the blade hoop. The tube is split and saddles the blade, so as the blade turns, coolant runs along the blade and on to the stock being cut. The coolant flow is far too much for the blade, so, I interrupted the line with a small retic tap, as the flow to the blade is reduced by the tap, coolant flows out of the midpoint spigot and returned to the tub. Of course coolant splashes everywhere, so I had to make a few mods. The bandsaw table has a small lip around the periphery making an ideal basin effect, so I drilled a hole in the table, roughly where the material falls after being cut, turned up a countersunk drain, inserted it in the hole and locked it in place with a nut from underneath. A 13mm plastic tube slips over the spigot on the bottom of the drain and feeds coolant from the table through a retic filter and a couple of rare earth magnets lying in the bottom of a couple of adapters between the filter and the coolant tub. That takes care of the coolant pooling on the table, however, some coolant flows over the side of the table behind the switch, so I bolted a small aluminium angle iron piece to the edge of the table. The drain on the table clogs up occasionally, mostly after cutting wood or plastic, so that requires freeing up with a plunger every now and again. I also added a small plastic tray under the gap of the vice bed, but that has remained dry for the last eight years. Some coolant does escape the table when cutting tube, entering the tube through the cut and dribbling out the end. Not much I can do about that except place a bucket on the floor under the end of the tube being cut. The coolant when it travels along the blade, shoots straight out the back, so, I removed the resting plate on top of the lower blade guide, fashioned another the same and cut a neoprene washer to fit between the plates and screwed them in place. Here's a video showing how the system works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-WmtobrtV0 |
Thread: Brake line junction block. |
25/08/2023 10:39:00 |
I could have anodised it, but I think it would have looked out of place on this bike. What do you think? Edited By Tony sacc on 25/08/2023 10:47:26 Edited By Tony sacc on 25/08/2023 10:47:56 Edited By Tony sacc on 25/08/2023 10:48:51 |
25/08/2023 01:59:57 |
This is a new brake line block I machined up to replace the original. The original hoses were rotted, so I replaced them and did away with the two steel tubes that connect the hose to the calliper and the hose from the master cylinder to the divider. Unfortunately, the new hoses have the banjos on the same plain requiring the lower hose to be twisted through 90degrees to connect to the original divider, so I machined a new divider to get around the problem. The lower hose connects at the rear of the divider, as does the brake light switch. The top hose connects to the side of the divider. |
Thread: When boredom overtakes, make something, anything! |
25/08/2023 01:52:20 |
Posted by Paul Kemp on 25/08/2023 00:48:32:
I am obviously missing something somewhere. Tony posts some stuff showcasing what he does and to me it looks pretty good and somehow this turns into a slanging match telling him he is doing it all wrong for not working to drawings? As he points out (not that it really needed pointing out) he is one bloke in his shed pleasing himself and not into mass production or even limited production runs but one offs! I have known a few people over the years that have customised bikes, cars, trucks and even built steam engines without drawings, it’s not uncommon. Often it yields good results. From a brief read this thread appears to represent the worst of this forum where a post gets turned into a willy waving competition and where opinionated ex spurts impose their view of the world. The guy is amusing himself, getting the results he wants so why the need to chuck bricks? if you can’t find it in you to say anything good, better to say nothing! Paul. Can of worms opened again. Unfortunately, there are a few forums like this where everyone is an expert. But that's life I guess, without arguments and everyone agreeing, it'd be a pretty boring world. |
25/08/2023 00:16:21 |
Posted by Tony sacc on 24/08/2023 07:11:38:
Posted by Tony sacc on 24/08/2023 07:09:54:
Posted by Vic on 24/08/2023 03:38:36:
This is all assuming the cutting shoulders are of equal length. ff not the hole will be the width of the longest cutting shoulder x 2.
So, assumining you are working off a centrepop, working of a centrepop and reamiing with a bigger drill after a pilot will result in very different outcomes. Drilling without a pilot will result in an oversiz hole if the cutting shoulders are not the same length. With a pilot it would depend on the size of the pilot, to a degree, and the size of the drill, but the hole would certainly be a little oversize because both cutting shoulders are not cutting, throwing the drill to one side, or deflecting it. However, the amount of deflection varies with the size of the drill. a 12mm drill will hardly deflect at all, whereas a 3mm drill will delect greatly. That said, a 3mm drill, whilst it will deflect won't deflect that much because the difference in cutting shoulder length would be very slight. A drill with different length cutting shoulders will be longer on the side with the shorter shoulder, thus contacting the work first and deflecting the drill until the other other shoulder contacts the work.
Edited By Tony sacc on 24/08/2023 07:18:36
Edited By Tony sacc on 25/08/2023 00:21:00 |
24/08/2023 07:11:38 |
Posted by Tony sacc on 24/08/2023 07:09:54:
Posted by Vic on 24/08/2023 03:38:36:
Nice drill jig. Can folks clear something up for me though. I was under the impression that drills bits only normally drilled over size if it was presented directly to the work piece. Does this still apply if you start the hole with a smaller bit first? Can of worms there. The experts will tell you the pilot drill should be around the size of the i flute, which is a reasonable way of doing it, however, drill bits are all slightly under size, a 6mm bit will actually measure somewhere around 5.96mm, depending on brand and country of manufacture. If you simply want a 6mm hole to stick a 6mm rod through and fit isn't that important, just drilling with the 6mmill will suffice. I'm not that rough, when I want a good fit, I'll drill with 5.5mm bit and follow up with a 6mm drill, that way the hole generally comes out 6/6.1mm. The experts will tell you to use a reamer, but we don't all have reamers of every size on the planet. so, I make do with what I have. On the lathe I'll pilot with a 5.5, followed by a 15/64, followed by a 6mm.Generally speaking the hole will come out near as damn it to 6mm, or slightly under. Keep in mind also, that that 6mm bolt is not 6mm across the threads, it will be under 6mm, how much depends on how the thread was formed. I generaly pilot anything over 6-7mm no matter how precise I want the hole. Smaller bits also find the centrepop mark easiier. This is all assuming the cutting shoulders are of equal length. ff not the hole will be the width of the longest cutting shoulder x 2. Now there's a can of worms, opened right up!
Edited By Tony sacc on 24/08/2023 07:18:36 |
24/08/2023 07:09:54 |
Posted by Vic on 24/08/2023 03:38:36:
Nice drill jig. Can folks clear something up for me though. I was under the impression that drills bits only normally drilled over size if it was presented directly to the work piece. Does this still apply if you start the hole with a smaller bit first? Can of worms there. The experts will tell you the pilot drill should be around the size of the i flute, which is a reasonable way of doing it, however, drill bits are all slightly under siz,ie, a 6mm bit will actually measure somewhere around 5.96mm, depending on brand and country of manufacture. If you simply want a 6mm hole to stick a 6mm rod through and fit isn't that important, just drilling with the 6mmill will suffice. I'm not that rough, when I want a good fit, I'll drill with 5.5mm bit and follow up with a 6mm drill, that way the hole generally comes out 5.99/6mm. The experts will tell you to use a reamer, but we don't all have reamers of every size on the planet. so, make do with what you have. Keep in mind also, that that 6mm bolt is not 6mm across the threads, it will be under 6mm, how much depends on how the thread was formed. I generaly pilot anything over 6-7mm no matter how precise I want the hole. Smaller bits also find the centrepop mark easiier. Now there's a can of worms, opened right up! |
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