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Peter Simpson 309/06/2023 12:35:22
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This might sound stupid, I just purchased a M6 LH die to cut some threads. I cannot get the die to cut the thread. Do you have to reverse the direction of the die compared to a standard RH die ?

Fulmen09/06/2023 12:44:03
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Yes of course. The die is "screwed on" the stock as if it were a nut.

roy entwistle09/06/2023 12:45:07
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would you have to reverse a nut to put it on the thread? cheeky

not done it yet09/06/2023 12:45:20
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Er, yes. Depends on whether hand threading or doing it on the lathe. Lathe spindle direction would need to be reversed.

Nigel Graham 209/06/2023 14:14:11
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Yes - a thread is cut in the same direction as it works!

So looking on the end of the screw, a right-hand (conventional) nut will turn clockwise to put it on, a left-hand, anticlockwise. The die runs in the same direction as the nut will.

NB: if using a left-hand die on a lathe with a screwed-on chuck, there is some risk of the chuck unscrewing as the die bites into the metal. This less with a small thread like M6 but it is still best not to try it under power.

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While here it is worth re-iterating what a post on here some while ago raised:

If you are threading raw bar-stock, not a diameter you have turned to suit, measure the bar before trying to thread it. Depending on the metal and supplier, it can be sufficiently above nominal diameter, and even out-of-round, to make using a die very problematical.

Skim the intended length of thread to a few "thou" or about 0.1mm below diameter, or if possible to the standard outside diameter given by the thread-crest rounding. (You will find such details in reference-books or charts.)

Peter Simpson 309/06/2023 14:21:07
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Many thanks, all sorted except I now find the thread is M6 x 0.75 LH Cannot find a supplier of a die that size in the UK. Unless anybody knows differently.

Fulmen09/06/2023 14:28:13
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Ouch, that sounds like a real oddball. For an external thread the obvious answer is to single point it.

Nick Hughes09/06/2023 14:31:57
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How about this (first on the list in my Google search for "M6 Metric Fine LH Dies" ) :-

**LINK**

Edited By Nick Hughes on 09/06/2023 14:35:13

Nigel Graham 209/06/2023 14:35:19
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M6 X 0.75mm is standard ISO Metric Fine.

Possibly unusual, and in left-hand form unusual-er still, but I'd try Tracy Tools first, or the Tap & Die company.

HOWARDT09/06/2023 18:13:45
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Arceurotrade.

HOWARDT09/06/2023 18:14:41
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Scrub that, forgot lh.

David Davies 809/06/2023 18:32:59
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Try Drill Service, Horley but sit down first.

HTH

Dave

peak409/06/2023 19:34:07
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There seems to be a number of Chinese suppliers via eBay, but also one German one if you search for EU, rather than UK
Those are made by Baer, which led me to look at their own website HERE
https://baer.tools/en/taps-dies/thread-standards/mf-metric-fine-thread/round-dies/for-left-hand-thread/3514/baer-cutting-die-mf-6-x-0-75-left-hss?c=860

Bill

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