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Clay Jones12/02/2021 17:51:54
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This ME hobby being highly addictive I’ve decided to treat myself to a new mill and have on back order a WM16B from Warco. Even though it’s a few more weeks yet I’ve decided to spend this weekend preparing an area of bench in my workshop to receive it. It would be really helpful to know the overall depth of the mill less the Y Axis wheel as this can overhang the edge of the bench. The PDF catalogue states 600mm so I guess the question is what is the depth of the wheel to dictate bench depth with a nats whisker back of mill to wall operation. Space is a bit tight and a snug fit would be ideal. Hopefully someone has the same mill.

Thanks

Clay

Oldiron12/02/2021 17:57:50
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Took these dims out of a Google search. IHIH regards

Dimensions W x D x H (Measurements taken to end of handle grips, with head at maximum elevation) Tray dimensions (W x D): 520mm x 487mm  950 x 200 x 1035mm

Edited By Oldiron on 12/02/2021 18:00:04

Clay Jones12/02/2021 18:00:38
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Ah yes I see that but I think the error in 200 depth is wrong as the PDF brochure states 600, thanks for looking mind.

Nigel Graham 212/02/2021 18:03:08
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Don't forget the total width the machine needs - start at table length + travel + hand-wheels, as a rough guide.

Milling-machines take a lot more room than you might think!

Watch too for overhead room, depending on the machine type. I am not familiar with the WM16B but some, such as my Myford VMC with its hinged pulley cover, or those with a big upwardly-pointing motor, need appreciable headroom.

Clay Jones12/02/2021 18:13:50
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Thanks Nigel, travel width and height is no problem it’s just depth. From what I understand there is nothing at the back to cause a problem, may be wrong. It may well be I’m over thinking this but depth less front wheel dim would be handy.

BC Prof12/02/2021 18:50:46
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Back to front of tray ( or even front to back ) is 520mm . Handle sticks ou a further 100mm to the end of then handle

Brian

Clay Jones12/02/2021 18:54:36
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Your a gent Brian thank you.

Stuart Smith 512/02/2021 19:02:40
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I have my Warco WM16 on a wooden bench 550mm deep. The chip tray is 50mm from the wall and is 480mm deep. This is about as close as you can put it to the wall so that you can turn the column handle without your knuckles hitting the wall. The y axis handle protrudes about 100mm in front of the chip tray. The mill x axis table is 700mm wide and 930mm wide across the x axis handles plus you need extra space each side for the x axis travel. (About 200mm each side).

Hope this info is useful.

Stuart

Clay Jones12/02/2021 19:42:21
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Brilliant thanks Stuart

Roger Best19/02/2021 23:35:41
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Yo Clay - welcome to the 16B club

There are a few errors in the Warco website,

I found one of them the hard way - the chip tray dimensions are the wrong way round, you need 520mm depth to fully support the tray, 500 is fine, mine is even less and the base of the machine is fully supported.

The distance of the Z-axis wheel to the wall is OK, I will be putting some slippy plastic on the rough wall nevertheless.

The machine is not as high as the maximum height listed, so I didn't have to move my lights.

My brain is failing - please use the link under my name to see the pictures. Other wise here is my thread:

WM 16B pics

 

 

Edited By Roger Best on 19/02/2021 23:39:45

Steviegtr19/02/2021 23:59:42
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I bet you are excited. Wait till you have to sweep the floor. + her indoors keeps saying where is all this metal coming from that is stuck in the carpet. HA HA. Good luck with your new machine.

Steve.

Clay Jones20/02/2021 05:31:34
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Hi Roger, thanks for the link to your thread, very useful, and interesting solution to your install issues. Fortunate in having a heavy duty table lift as like most years in the building game my back, like most isn’t as good as it was. I’m very lucky to have a decent workshop but it’s nicely fitted for joinery and half my issues were in miserly freeing of space for this addictive new hobby that is model engineering. Finally committed to giving myself more space so no longer an issue, although careful saw dust cleaning and protection may be required.

Hi Steve, yes I’m like a kid at Christmas and just had an Email to say shipment has landed and early March is looking good. Just checked out your videos, looks like we’re kindred spirits on the car front. Gave the bikes up after one too many scary moments. Ride safe fella.

 

Edited By Clay Jones on 20/02/2021 05:56:20

Clive Foster20/02/2021 09:07:56
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Clay

If you install the machine with the Y-axis handle overhanging the bench look into replacing the standard handwheel with one having a folding handle. In cramped spaces the standard fixed style tend to be needy and keep prodding you for attention!

I shoved one of the big square column bench mills into grossly inadequate space. Fitting folding handle wheels made the difference between "think thin" and "learn to operate the feed with your tummy". The ones I found were also maybe 1/2" slimmer when mounted. Every little helped. I think mine came from RS but there are plenty of suppliers. Put the standard ones back on when I sold the mill so I may still have them if you want to try one.

Clive

Clay Jones20/02/2021 17:22:33
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Thanks for that Clive great idea. Just finished stripping out the corner of shelving and fitting electrics so I’m sure there should be plenty of space now. 1.4w x 720 deep and 1m high.
Not sure it’s quite so normal for an ex Rugby playing builder to be so excited about delivery but will just have to run with it.....determined to impress Bill with my first apprentice project pics Lol!         Clay

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Edited By Clay Jones on 20/02/2021 17:22:59

Roger Best20/02/2021 23:22:49
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That looks the business. smiley

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