Where can i get one?
Brian Abbott | 08/05/2020 19:54:24 |
![]() 523 forum posts 95 photos | Does anyone know where I can get on of these in the uk? 6.35 to 12mm Thanks. |
Steviegtr | 08/05/2020 19:57:04 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | Look up flexible couplings they are quite popular. Sure there will be a stockist near you. Steve. |
Journeyman | 08/05/2020 20:08:35 |
![]() 1257 forum posts 264 photos | Amazon, where else? John |
Ian McVickers | 08/05/2020 20:09:31 |
261 forum posts 117 photos | Hengstler or flexible beam couplings are pretty common so should be easy to find. RS components have then but they are a bit pricey. Zapp Automation might have them.
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Brian Abbott | 08/05/2020 20:23:15 |
![]() 523 forum posts 95 photos | Thanks all. John, looks like what I need, thanks for the link. |
Ketan Swali | 08/05/2020 20:29:29 |
1481 forum posts 149 photos | If you are converting something to CNC, they flex/bend and can sometimes bend/snap the leadscrew. They put a strain on the lead/ball screw, and sometimes also effect the fast movement of the X/Y axis. So for example if you are cutting/engraving a circle, at a certain point you may fail to get a perfect curve. If you are looking at a clock face, usually between 6pm and 9pm. If you have alignment issues, better to look at oldam couplings, similar to this. These hold the position better. ARC will stop selling these after they are sold out becasue we stopped selling most things to do with CNC. Ketan at ARC. |
Brian Abbott | 08/05/2020 20:34:56 |
![]() 523 forum posts 95 photos | Hello Ketan. I was hoping to use it to connect a stepper motor to my rotary table.
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Ketan Swali | 08/05/2020 20:48:12 |
1481 forum posts 149 photos | Posted by Brian Abbott on 08/05/2020 20:34:56:
Hello Ketan. I was hoping to use it to connect a stepper motor to my rotary table.
Then not a big deal. Most people use flexi coupling, but we stopped using them very early on. We still use the oldham type for the rotary table conversions we build, for quicker assembly, and still to get over alignment stress/strain issues. Which ever way you decide is fine. Good Luck. Ketan at ARC. |
Journeyman | 08/05/2020 20:49:32 |
![]() 1257 forum posts 264 photos | That's exactly what I did, used the same coupling see Journeyman's Workshop John |
Ketan Swali | 08/05/2020 20:58:05 |
1481 forum posts 149 photos | Posted by Journeyman on 08/05/2020 20:49:32:
That's exactly what I did, used the same coupling see Journeyman's Workshop John Thats a good write-up John. Ketan at ARC. |
Journeyman | 08/05/2020 21:04:25 |
![]() 1257 forum posts 264 photos | Thanks, no original thinking by me. Based on Carl Wilson's article in MEW 249. Works well although I haven't used it much. John |
Brian Abbott | 08/05/2020 21:21:34 |
![]() 523 forum posts 95 photos | Thanks John. Good read and will be very useful. |
old mart | 09/05/2020 20:37:30 |
4655 forum posts 304 photos | An Oldham coupling could suffer with backlash if it gets worn, but those springy one piece type will not. However, as Ketan says, the Oldham is easier to couple up as there are no grub screws to tighten up. |
Ketan Swali | 09/05/2020 22:28:06 |
1481 forum posts 149 photos | Sorry Old Mart, That is not the experience we have has with Oldham Couplings! JS and I spent a long time developing the modifications to the KX CNC machines as well as the modulations from manual to stepper motor modifications of the rotary tables.... more than 12 years ago, well before most on here started to come up with the ideas. Before we put the modified rotary tables with stepper motors onto the market, we ran Extensive tests, especially with Steve Blackmore - the demolition king, to break them. After additions of several D.C. Needle roller bearings and Thrust NRBs and Oldham couplings to the assembly, such rotary tables became a lot more robust. Because of the cost of the modified rotary tables, most of our customers for them were and still are industrial users who consider them to be cheap! The SIEG factory made two versions of the KXs. We sent them the Oldham couplings for all the KX CNC machines we sold, after seeing the failure under certain ‘abuse’ conditions using the various flexi coupling versions they fit as standard. The KXs sold by others have flexi, including the clones. To the best of my knowledge, not a single one of the KXs we supplied over 10 years, including the one we use has had a ‘backlash’ / failure issue due to the U.K. made Oldham couplings fitted into the ARC supplied KXs, which are more expensive to buy than the flexi couplings... even from original Oldham couplings makers themselves, and even they recommend these over their own versions of flexi, for industrial applications. Until around 2017, Oldham couplings were not made or available in China. Even when they started making such couplings in China, they had many failures initially, and only recently, they have made improvements. Even so, the Chinese equivalent is more expensive than their flexi, and sometimes their similar ‘looking’ types are still not Oldham types, but are marketed as such. It would be wrong to compare an Oldham coupling with flexi, in our opinion. But, as I said earlier, it is up to the user and their application. Ketan at ARC
Edited By Ketan Swali on 09/05/2020 22:31:45 |
Colin Heseltine | 09/05/2020 22:32:45 |
744 forum posts 375 photos | Brian, i bought the Oldham couplings I used on my rotary table conversion from HPC gears. They are still open. Colin
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Ketan Swali | 09/05/2020 22:34:35 |
1481 forum posts 149 photos | Also, forgot to say that Oldham couplings also have grub screws to fix/clamp them onto the shafts, and yes they are easier to couple up and are always better than flexi to maintain alignment without stress. Ketan at ARC Edited By Ketan Swali on 09/05/2020 22:35:37 |
Michael Gilligan | 09/05/2020 23:09:45 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | It’s worth looking through the enormous range offered by RS : **LINK** https://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/pneumatics-hydraulics-power-transmission/power-transmission-couplings/couplings/ Use the filters in the sidebar to home-in on items of interest. ... Most of their listings have a datasheet available. MichaelG. |
Ketan Swali | 09/05/2020 23:20:07 |
1481 forum posts 149 photos | The ones which ARC sells are made by HUCO. Ketan at ARC |
mgnbuk | 10/05/2020 10:19:43 |
1394 forum posts 103 photos | I would not use the spiral cut solid type as a motor coupling. They were designed to drive low torque loads such as resolvers and tacho generators and were not particularly reliable when used as intended. A better solution is a jaw coupling with a backlash-free elastomer insert, like this The clamp hub desgn is better than grub screws directly contacting the shaft (particularly if the shaft does not have a flat). This is the type of coupling that Denford originally employed on my Triac. Be aware that there are "general purpose" types of this coupling that do not have a backlash-free insert - all the backlash-free ones I have come across have a red insert & require a firm push to engage the two jaws over the insert. As with an Oldham coupling the motor can be removed leaving the ballscrew jaw in place - unlike an Oldham coupling the insert is not subject to wear. Nigel B. |
Michael Gilligan | 10/05/2020 10:32:19 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | All good stuff, Nigel ^^^ ... provided that you can be sure of axial alignment between motor and shaft. MichaelG. |
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