Using his Warco mill
Steviegtr | 09/03/2020 23:11:27 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | I don't know if any of you watch the Ades workshop on you tube. He has recently got himself a Warco milling machine. Just been watching him making some hold down clamps for the bed. All I can say is what a great guy. He always brings a smile to my face. His little Warco seems to do the job nicely as well. with the huge amount of money I have saved I can spend some more on toys for it. I myself procured a milling machine today. I was going to try & buy a Chinese Sieg but that did not happen. So I strangely instead of buying a machine made quite a few thousand miles away, ended up buying one made just down the road. I bought the one advertised on here. A Tom Senior light. What a lovely machine. It looks like it just came from the showroom although I guess some 40 odd years old. It has a bit of play on the Y axis which I will address & only a dinky 1/2 hp motor. The inverter is a 1hp so will maybe up it to that. Anyway that is why I am watching video's of machining with a milling machine. Regards to all you guys that gave me the heads up on the Tom Senior. Regards. P.S I want his jumper. Ades workshop Edited By Steviegtr on 09/03/2020 23:12:46 Edited By Steviegtr on 09/03/2020 23:25:21 |
Lathejack | 09/03/2020 23:23:51 |
339 forum posts 337 photos | Yes I just found Ades Workshop recently, I enjoyed his strip down and rebuild of his new Warco milling machine, a WM16 I think it was. Is your newly aquired Tom Senior the E type that was shown on this forum recently? If so your a lucky chap, very nice machines for the home workshop. Edited By Lathejack on 09/03/2020 23:24:38 |
Steviegtr | 09/03/2020 23:28:22 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | Posted by Lathejack on 09/03/2020 23:23:51:
Yes I just found Ades Workshop recently, I enjoyed his strip down and rebuild of his new Warco milling machine, a WM16 I think it was. Is your newly aquired Tom Senior the E type that was shown on this forum recently? If so your a lucky chap, very nice machines for the home workshop. Edited By Lathejack on 09/03/2020 23:24:38 Sorry I was just editing the post. I do not know what the etype is. Is this the machine you refer to in the above post. I hope it is as I used to have an E-type Jaguar when I was a young un. Wish I still had it. Anyway if it is not I am delighted with it. Regards. Steve. |
Lathejack | 10/03/2020 00:19:46 |
339 forum posts 337 photos | Sorry I was mistaken, the E type Tom Senior mill is the one with the round verticle collumn but which stil has the same quill feed swivelling milling head. I saw the recent posts showing a close up photo of the Tom Senior that was for sale and didn't look close enough and assumed it was the E type model. Anyway, you've got yourself a fabulous machine. Edited By Lathejack on 10/03/2020 00:23:40 Edited By Lathejack on 10/03/2020 00:25:08 |
Steviegtr | 10/03/2020 00:40:59 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | Posted by Lathejack on 10/03/2020 00:19:46:
Sorry I was mistaken, the E type Tom Senior mill is the one with the round verticle collumn but which stil has the same quill feed swivelling milling head. I saw the recent posts showing a close up photo of the Tom Senior that was for sale and didn't look close enough and assumed it was the E type model. Anyway, you've got yourself a fabulous machine. Edited By Lathejack on 10/03/2020 00:23:40 Edited By Lathejack on 10/03/2020 00:25:08 Thanks for that. Steve. |
JasonB | 10/03/2020 07:41:24 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Don't be in too much of a rush to put a bigger motor on it, due to the machine using belts you will be getting the full 1/2hp in all speed ranges. Don't compare the motor size with that on variable speed machines which tend to have a larger hp motor to compensate for not getting all the beans at lower revs. You even said in the other thread you only wanted to do light work yet first thing you are talking about is upping the power on this one and possibly pushing the rest of the machine harder than intended? I think you have the "LIGHT Vertical" so ideal for light detailed work not big hogging cuts.
Edited By JasonB on 10/03/2020 08:06:13 |
thaiguzzi | 10/03/2020 08:18:25 |
![]() 704 forum posts 131 photos | This. All TS quill feed heads came with a 4 speed belt drive, 1/2 hp motor and you do not need anymore, nor was it designed to take a bigger motor. I have one on my M1. The M1 has the back gear facility on the horizontal which takes a 1 hp motor which also drives the table power feed. You have a Light Vertical, a very nice mill, and better/sturdier than the E, the only drawback from the factory was they normally did'nt come with power feed to the table. |
Ron Laden | 10/03/2020 08:46:27 |
![]() 2320 forum posts 452 photos | I would recommend you reading through Jason,s "Milling for Beginners" series in the workshop mags. Also his build threads on his engines, you dont need to be building the engine/item but his pictures show the set ups both lathe and mill and how parts were produced I learnt a tremendous amount from those. |
Steviegtr | 10/03/2020 09:22:08 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | Posted by JasonB on 10/03/2020 07:41:24:
Don't be in too much of a rush to put a bigger motor on it, due to the machine using belts you will be getting the full 1/2hp in all speed ranges. Don't compare the motor size with that on variable speed machines which tend to have a larger hp motor to compensate for not getting all the beans at lower revs. You even said in the other thread you only wanted to do light work yet first thing you are talking about is upping the power on this one and possibly pushing the rest of the machine harder than intended? I think you have the "LIGHT Vertical" so ideal for light detailed work not big hogging cuts.
Edited By JasonB on 10/03/2020 08:06:13 Thanks for that Jason. It is only 1/2 hp. 3 phase. It has a VFD in a housing so from what you are saying it will be ideal as it is. Thanks. Steve. |
Steviegtr | 10/03/2020 09:22:49 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | Posted by Ron Laden on 10/03/2020 08:46:27:
I would recommend you reading through Jason,s "Milling for Beginners" series in the workshop mags. Also his build threads on his engines, you dont need to be building the engine/item but his pictures show the set ups both lathe and mill and how parts were produced I learnt a tremendous amount from those. I will do that. Thanks. Steve. |
Steviegtr | 10/03/2020 09:24:50 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | Posted by thaiguzzi on 10/03/2020 08:18:25:
This. All TS quill feed heads came with a 4 speed belt drive, 1/2 hp motor and you do not need anymore, nor was it designed to take a bigger motor. I have one on my M1. The M1 has the back gear facility on the horizontal which takes a 1 hp motor which also drives the table power feed. You have a Light Vertical, a very nice mill, and better/sturdier than the E, the only drawback from the factory was they normally did'nt come with power feed to the table. No you are correct it has no power feed. Thanks for the info. Any idea how ii can tell it's build date. Steve.
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JasonB | 10/03/2020 09:47:38 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Ideal for light work or bigger stuff using light cuts and not massive tooling eg the MT2 taper is a bit slim for using say an 80mm indexable facsimile but the Warco would have been fine though still needing appropriate depth of cut. Putting a big motor on that would be like putting your GTR engine in a Micra and expecting the breaks, suspension etc to cope. Even with the VFD use the belts to get you in the right speed range just like a car gearbox then vfd is your throttle but don't spend all the time off the cam, below the turbos boost range or running on the rev limiter |
mechman48 | 10/03/2020 11:10:37 |
![]() 2947 forum posts 468 photos | I watch Ade's workshop every week; a clever guy, with his easy attitude to all his jobs & with some humour added. I liked his strip down of his new WM 18. Another great guy is 'Doubleboost'.. John Mills; to paraphrase him ' Im just a mechanic who pisses about' another clever guy with a no nonsense attitude.I'm subscribed to both channels. George. |
Steviegtr | 10/03/2020 13:18:02 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | Posted by JasonB on 10/03/2020 09:47:38:
Ideal for light work or bigger stuff using light cuts and not massive tooling eg the MT2 taper is a bit slim for using say an 80mm indexable facsimile but the Warco would have been fine though still needing appropriate depth of cut. Putting a big motor on that would be like putting your GTR engine in a Micra and expecting the breaks, suspension etc to cope. Even with the VFD use the belts to get you in the right speed range just like a car gearbox then vfd is your throttle but don't spend all the time off the cam, below the turbos boost range or running on the rev limiter Jason. Thanks for those tips. I stand by what I said in the other thread about not wanting to anything big. I cannot ever see me doing that kind of work. Probably most of the time it will be Delrin & Aluminium. Although a do have a plan for some 316. Will I need to set up a mist spray or do I just lube as I go. Steve. |
JasonB | 10/03/2020 13:24:43 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Bit of Paraffin and a small brush will do for the aluminium or WD40 best in the garden spray type bottle not aerosol unless you like spraying away your money. Same with the stainless a bit of neat cutting fluid dabbed on will do. |
Steviegtr | 10/03/2020 13:32:41 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | Thanks for that. I have a small trigger spray i bought at the autojumble on Sat. Can you buy WD40 in liquid form. Steve. |
Mike Poole | 10/03/2020 14:04:46 |
![]() 3676 forum posts 82 photos | WD40 is available in 5 litre containers with a free pump spray. Mike |
Steviegtr | 10/03/2020 15:40:16 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | Posted by Mike Poole on 10/03/2020 14:04:46:
WD40 is available in 5 litre containers with a free pump spray. Mike Thanks Mike. Is it something I can buy locally or is it an online purchase. Never seen it in cans, tins ,whatever, just in aerosol. Steve. |
JasonB | 10/03/2020 15:45:02 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Got a machine Mart or Screwfix near you? They both do it. |
Steviegtr | 10/03/2020 15:54:29 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | Great stuff. One just opened in Garforth near me. Screwfix. Steve. |
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