By continuing to use this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more
Forum sponsored by:
Forum sponsored by Forum House Ad Zone

another mystery object

All Topics | Latest Posts

Search for:  in Thread Title in  
duncan webster12/07/2018 14:53:45
5307 forum posts
83 photos

Anyone know what this is? I'm guessing it is some kind of temperature sensor. It has ND/LS/89 engraved on the side, I've tried Google, no joyimg_3317 (small).jpg

Trevorh12/07/2018 14:56:59
avatar
316 forum posts
89 photos

Hi Duncan

Think its either a J or K type Thermocouple

the red/white cable denotes its type and temp range

cheers

Brian Sweeting12/07/2018 15:40:22
453 forum posts
1 photos

Looks like a type J.

Wire colours - **LINK**

duncan webster12/07/2018 15:42:32
5307 forum posts
83 photos

Thanks Trevorh, to check your suggestion I connected it to a multimeter set on mV and plunged it into a nice hot cup of tea, no output. However if I set it on ohms it measures 110 at room temp and increases by a few ohms at tea temp.

Edited By duncan webster on 12/07/2018 15:42:55

SillyOldDuffer12/07/2018 15:47:05
10668 forum posts
2415 photos

It's the detonator from a Blue Bunny 10 kiloton nuclear land-mine. Usual bomb-disposal rules apply - don't cut the red wire!  Under no circumstances plunge it into a hot cup of tea; that starts the firing sequence...

Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 12/07/2018 15:48:32

Nick Clarke 312/07/2018 17:21:59
avatar
1607 forum posts
69 photos

I agree it looks like a thermocouple to measure temperature - your ohms readings are unusual though.

But if it is something you have just come across remember it is not necessarily a working thermocouple.... !

Ian P12/07/2018 17:30:25
avatar
2747 forum posts
123 photos

It is a temperature probe but its not a thermocouple.

It is a PRT (Platinum Resistance Thermometer), most probably a PRT100 which is 100 Ohms (not sure at what standard temp) but its resistance change with temperature is very predictable and at lower temperatures (say below 200C) is far more accurate than a thermocouple.

Ian P

Vic12/07/2018 18:25:51
3453 forum posts
23 photos
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 12/07/2018 15:47:05:

It's the detonator from a Blue Bunny 10 kiloton nuclear land-mine. Usual bomb-disposal rules apply - don't cut the red wire! Under no circumstances plunge it into a hot cup of tea; that starts the firing sequence...

Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 12/07/2018 15:48:32

Nice one! smiley

Roderick Jenkins12/07/2018 18:46:09
avatar
2376 forum posts
800 photos

PRTs usually have 3 wires.

Rod

John Rudd12/07/2018 18:57:38
1479 forum posts
1 photos

Industry standard PT100 prt's have a 100 ohm resistance at 0 deg C.....at 100 deg C  I'd expect it to read 138.5 ohms....

There are look up tables for the various resistances expected at a given temperature...temperature transmitters using a PT100 sensor are usually calibrated using a decade resistance box....

Edited By John Rudd on 12/07/2018 18:59:03

Ian P12/07/2018 20:09:53
avatar
2747 forum posts
123 photos
Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 12/07/2018 18:46:09:

PRTs usually have 3 wires.

Rod

They also usually have 4 wires!

The basic platinum element has only two connections but bringing out extra wires allows the wire resistance to be compensated for. Two of the wires carry the current that passes through the sensor and the other two are used to measure the voltage at the sensor itself. Current in a circuit is the same at every point in the loop so is 'known' by the reading circuitry which then measures the voltage across the PRT and translates it to the temperature display etc.

Ian P

duncan webster13/07/2018 11:49:15
5307 forum posts
83 photos

Thanks for4 the replies chaps, I looked up the resistance/temperature chart for a PRT100 and then immersed the end of the probe in boiling water. It behaves as predicted. Now I know what it is I'll have to think of a use for it! Bit OTT for a workshop thermometer. Perhaps I'll have to fit a feed water heater to my loco then I'd have something to measure.

All Topics | Latest Posts

Please login to post a reply.

Magazine Locator

Want the latest issue of Model Engineer or Model Engineers' Workshop? Use our magazine locator links to find your nearest stockist!

Find Model Engineer & Model Engineers' Workshop

Sign up to our Newsletter

Sign up to our newsletter and get a free digital issue.

You can unsubscribe at anytime. View our privacy policy at www.mortons.co.uk/privacy

Latest Forum Posts
Support Our Partners
cowells
Sarik
MERIDIENNE EXHIBITIONS LTD
Subscription Offer

Latest "For Sale" Ads
Latest "Wanted" Ads
Get In Touch!

Do you want to contact the Model Engineer and Model Engineers' Workshop team?

You can contact us by phone, mail or email about the magazines including becoming a contributor, submitting reader's letters or making queries about articles. You can also get in touch about this website, advertising or other general issues.

Click THIS LINK for full contact details.

For subscription issues please see THIS LINK.

Digital Back Issues

Social Media online

'Like' us on Facebook
Follow us on Facebook

Follow us on Twitter
 Twitter Logo

Pin us on Pinterest

 

Donate

donate