C T | 20/03/2018 17:59:45 |
![]() 74 forum posts 2 photos | I have a DC motor http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machine-Spares/C1-Lathe-Spares/C1-19-Motor I would like to control the spindle speed could anyone advise if this product would fit the bill? https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/dc-motor-controllers/1034042/?searchTerm=103-4042&relevancy-data=636F3D3126696E3D4931384E525353746F636B4E756D626572266C753D656E266D6D3D6D61746368616C6C26706D3D5E285C647B362C377D5B4161426250705D297C285C647B337D5B5C732D2F255C2E2C5D5C647B332C347D5B4161426250705D3F292426706F3D3126736E3D592673743D52535F53544F434B5F4E554D4245522677633D4E4F4E45267573743D3130332D34303432267374613D3130333430343226 |
Muzzer | 20/03/2018 18:06:59 |
![]() 2904 forum posts 448 photos | Seems to be a controller for a single phase induction (AC) motor. Not unusual for the pen pushers at RS to describe something they don't have a clue about and get it completely wrong. Short answer - no. Murray And all the DKM motors listed on the RS site are described as "reversible AC induction motor" and are truly piddle power. You'd struggle to even turn a machine with them, so presumably the controller is also miniscule. Not the most informative datasheet. Edited By Muzzer on 20/03/2018 18:09:45 |
C T | 20/03/2018 18:26:22 |
![]() 74 forum posts 2 photos | Posted by Muzzer on 20/03/2018 18:06:59:
Seems to be a controller for a single phase induction (AC) motor. Not unusual for the pen pushers at RS to describe something they don't have a clue about and get it completely wrong. Short answer - no. Murray And all the DKM motors listed on the RS site are described as "reversible AC induction motor" and are truly piddle power. You'd struggle to even turn a machine with them, so presumably the controller is also miniscule. Not the most informative datasheet. Edited By Muzzer on 20/03/2018 18:09:45
Thank you for the reply Muzzer I was confused RS called it a DC controller but DKM said it was AC. Will keep looking
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norman royds 2 | 20/03/2018 18:50:08 |
48 forum posts | The one I am using is cheetah SME 2HP input 110 /220 240 ac 16 AMPS 50/60hz output ;0.90/0.180v dc 11AMPS so it give somewhere to start carl hope this some help regards norm |
C T | 20/03/2018 19:24:15 |
![]() 74 forum posts 2 photos | Posted by norman royds 2 on 20/03/2018 18:50:08:
The one I am using is cheetah SME 2HP input 110 /220 240 ac 16 AMPS 50/60hz output ;0.90/0.180v dc 11AMPS so it give somewhere to start carl hope this some help regards norm
Thank you Norman for the information.
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oldvelo | 20/03/2018 19:45:41 |
297 forum posts 56 photos | Hi More info on the end use would be useful. Assumption is mother of all misunderstanding X1 Mill ? No connection with KB Electronics on my part just satisfied user Start looking here Expensive but very reliable More here using one from this source using one on a band saw.
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John Haine | 20/03/2018 20:02:27 |
5563 forum posts 322 photos | I also use a KB Electronics one on my Novamill spindle. It works very well, have never had anything blow except a fuse when the mill decided to execute a "G0" rather than "G1" feed into the material, stakllked the motor and broke the cutter. Edited By John Haine on 20/03/2018 20:04:06 |
C T | 20/03/2018 20:16:50 |
![]() 74 forum posts 2 photos | Posted by oldvelo on 20/03/2018 19:45:41:
Hi More info on the end use would be useful. Assumption is mother of all misunderstanding X1 Mill ? The motor was fitted to a Sieg C1 lathe now to be used on a milling attachment on a Clark C1 lathe with the lathe head stock missing so the controller is not present. So I have the lathe bed with the cross slide milling attachment fitted but no controller. Is anything that RS components sell useful to me? I wish I knew what I was doing.
Edited By carl timmins on 20/03/2018 20:20:47 Edited By carl timmins on 20/03/2018 20:21:29 |
oldvelo | 22/03/2018 02:30:34 |
297 forum posts 56 photos | Hi Carl Here is another link to a unit that may be useful. RS are way off with there description it is NOT AC to DC at all is is for a low power AC motor ( Extractor Fan)??? perhaps Set up seems to be straight forward enough with the controller to match the motor. Eric
Edited By oldvelo on 22/03/2018 02:35:32 |
C T | 24/03/2018 15:58:51 |
![]() 74 forum posts 2 photos | Thank you for your help EricPosted by oldvelo on 22/03/2018 02:30:34:
Hi Carl Here is another link to a unit that may be useful. RS are way off with there description it is NOT AC to DC at all is is for a low power AC motor ( Extractor Fan)??? perhaps Set up seems to be straight forward enough with the controller to match the motor. Eric, thank you for your help but the one listed is for 110Volts I need 250Volts. I did not think that obtaining a speed controller would be so much trouble. It was my trying to get a small milling machine for little money but I am now going to purchase a machine to get me started. I have a vertical slide for my lathe but it sure has its limitations with my skills and ancillary tooling.
Edited By oldvelo on 22/03/2018 02:35:32
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Michael Cox 1 | 24/03/2018 16:41:25 |
555 forum posts 27 photos | Hi Carl, Here is a motor/ controller combination similar to the one posted by oldvelo. This one is rated for 240 volts and available in the UK. https://www.aimtools.co.uk/collections/spare-parts/products/katsu-550w-power-head-attachment-for-mini-lathe-machine-165013-and-165012 Mike |
John Rudd | 24/03/2018 17:01:07 |
1479 forum posts 1 photos | Carl, As the motor came from a Sieg mill, why not use the intended controller..? The XMT2315/230V. Available from a Sieg dealer near you....Arceurotrade.... That way it minimises any setup issues with min/max speed settings and any overload/over current issues. Edited By John Rudd on 24/03/2018 17:01:24 |
C T | 24/03/2018 17:35:44 |
![]() 74 forum posts 2 photos | Posted by Michael Cox 1 on 24/03/2018 16:41:25:
Hi Carl, Here is a motor/ controller combination similar to the one posted by oldvelo. This one is rated for 240 volts and available in the UK. https://www.aimtools.co.uk/collections/spare-parts/products/katsu-550w-power-head-attachment-for-mini-lathe-machine-165013-and-165012 Mike Mike, That looks interesting Thank you. Carl
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C T | 24/03/2018 17:43:50 |
![]() 74 forum posts 2 photos | Posted by John Rudd on 24/03/2018 17:01:07:
Carl, As the motor came from a Sieg mill, why not use the intended controller..? The XMT2315/230V. Available from a Sieg dealer near you....Arceurotrade.... That way it minimises any setup issues with min/max speed settings and any overload/over current issues. Edited By John Rudd on 24/03/2018 17:01:24 John, I have looked at purchasing from Arceurotrade but as far as I can see I would have to purchase each individual part of the controller get a case to fit them in and wire it all up. I do feel useless in having to say this but I am sure that is beyond me, take three wire from a controller unit to the motor and three wires from my socket outlet to the controller unit is probably the best I will be able to do.
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C T | 24/03/2018 18:17:42 |
![]() 74 forum posts 2 photos | Posted by John Rudd on 24/03/2018 17:01:07:
Carl, As the motor came from a Sieg mill, why not use the intended controller..? The XMT2315/230V. Available from a Sieg dealer near you....Arceurotrade.... That way it minimises any setup issues with min/max speed settings and any overload/over current issues. Edited By John Rudd on 24/03/2018 17:01:24 I have had a second look at purchasing the parts from Arceurotrade and the total price for all the parts minus the case, internal wire and suitable connectors will be around £120.00 I have also found a wiring schematic attached it is for the Clark CL250m lathe but I am told it will be the same. How difficult would it be the assemble and wire a controller remembering I have very little electrical knowledge.
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John Rudd | 24/03/2018 20:08:46 |
1479 forum posts 1 photos | I'm sure we can get you up and running...even if we have to do a point to point, step by step method of wiring up.... But I stress the choice is yours......! |
C T | 28/03/2018 17:38:01 |
![]() 74 forum posts 2 photos | Posted by John Rudd on 24/03/2018 20:08:46:
I'm sure we can get you up and running...even if we have to do a point to point, step by step method of wiring up.... But I stress the choice is yours......! John, Thank you for the offer of assistance but I have had good look around and will be purchasing a complete machine the Sieg X2.7 looks favorite. |
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