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Martin King 222/01/2017 13:58:32
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Hi All,

Worth getting up early today!

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Small lathe with a few issues to be sorted out, nothing special but a nice find. The drill press i really very nice, no chuck but has a small drawbar. No makers names on either.

Anyone have any ideas on these please?

Cheers,

Martin

Michael Gilligan22/01/2017 14:05:39
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I don't recognise it, Martin ... but that drill press is a little beauty !!

MichaelG.

Phil P22/01/2017 14:55:07
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Possibly A Hauser. Nice find.

http://www.wefalck.eu/mm/tools/drills/drills.html

http://www.wefalck.eu/mm/tools/drills/Hauser-drill-2.JPG

Phil

Nicholas Farr22/01/2017 15:02:55
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Hi Phil, yes I really like the drill press, should make a very nice exhibition piece if nothing else. (Some guys get all the luck)

Regards Nick.

Michael Gilligan22/01/2017 15:19:25
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Well spotted, Phil yes

[Martin] please don't be tempted to try fitting any old chuck ... according to Phil's first link it should take 6mm watchmakers' collets.

MichaelG.

Nicholas Farr22/01/2017 15:42:27
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Hi, Opps! blush I meant to direct my comments to Martin, in my previous post.

Regards Nick.

Martin King 222/01/2017 15:44:13
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Good point re the collets. I do get them from time to time so will be patient. Looks like a nice little project to fit in between my normal run of the mill refurbs etc.

Somewhere I have a really small machine vice which would go well on the tiny table!

The lathe tailstock has been broken where it has the dovetail to go on the ways, there is a 'spare part' with a matching dovetail which I might be able to do something with. Evidence of a badly done welded repair in the cross slide area too; will know more when I get it apart and cleaned. The 4 screw on jaws for the chuck are there which is good.

Martin

Neil Wyatt22/01/2017 15:55:12
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The lathe bears a resemblance to a Flexispeed or Ace minor but it doesn't look well enough finished and the foot detail is wrong.

Neil

Frances IoM22/01/2017 16:04:14
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the lathe is I think a Flexispeed student (described but not illustrated on lathes.co.uk - an el-cheapo competitor to the super adept - I have one (there is a photo in my album when I asked for identification) - looks as tho the cross slide is wrecked - as was mine where top + cross slides were brazed together as the screw fixing was obviously too weak - the tailstock is also a very weak point
JasonB22/01/2017 16:29:28
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Any idea what part of your body you would use to feed that nice little drill, seems an odd position for a presumably bench top drill as it would be dead in the middle of your chest if sitting working?

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Clive Foster22/01/2017 16:51:34
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Operating lever position looks as if the drill is intended to be used side on rather than front on. Left hand on the feed, right hand on the work. But it takes up a lot more space that way.

Clive

Michael Gilligan22/01/2017 16:52:18
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Posted by JasonB on 22/01/2017 16:29:28:

Any idea what part of your body you would use to feed that nice little drill, seems an odd position for a presumably bench top drill as it would be dead in the middle of your chest if sitting working?

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I suspect that the unit [or more likely the watchmaker] would be 'rotated' to the left or right, to allow operation with the preferred hand. ... Bear in mind that he would be contorted anyway, to view the work through a loupe.

MichaelG.

JasonB22/01/2017 17:15:46
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Does seem a lot of levers and pullies for little gain over a lever that could just have been pulled down avoiding the inherent slop in the linkages and giving better feel.

Not sure I would want to be doubled over close to that drill with a loupe in my eye and the belts passing straight past my headcrook

I did wonder if a length of cord could have been hooked over the end and down to a foot operated board thus leaving both hands free. Or maybe you could rest your elbow on the lever and keep two hands free.

Edited By JasonB on 22/01/2017 17:33:29

Michael Gilligan22/01/2017 17:44:00
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Posted by JasonB on 22/01/2017 17:15:46:

Does seem a lot of levers and pullies for little gain over a lever that could just have been pulled down avoiding the inherent slop in the linkages and giving better feel.

Not sure I would want to be doubled over close to that drill with a loupe in my eye and the belts passing straight past my headcrook

I did wonder if a length of cord could have been hooked over the end and down to a foot operated board thus leaving both hands free. Or maybe you could rest your elbow on the lever and keep two hands free.

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Possibilities, yes ... But if you're drilling a 0.1mm hole, I suspect that maximum sensitivity is obligatory.

I can't find a picture of anyone actually using such a machine, but the posture illustrated at the top of this page is pretty common. **LINK**

http://www.historictimekeepers.com/Staffsteps.htm

MichaelG.

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P.S. ... I haven't worked-through the geometry of the linkages ... perhaps Martin could give us some dimensions when he strips it down. The result may be interesting.

Phil P22/01/2017 17:55:39
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There is a picture of something very similar on the "lathes" website, under DIXI

http://www.lathes.co.uk/dixi/

It looks like lots of the watchmaking tool companies made a version of the drill, I have seen similar ones by both Schaublin and Boley as well.

Phil

Edited By Phil P on 22/01/2017 18:02:16

Martin King 203/03/2017 16:28:21
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Hi All.

Finally got around to sorting out the little drill press. It was not too bad just very gummed up with old grease and dirt. Stripped it down and chucked it all in the ultrasonic bath for a while and it came up well. Left the original finish alone. Sadly no collets for it but we will see how it goes.

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Michael Gilligan03/03/2017 17:03:27
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Looks just right, Martin yes

MichaelG.

Dave Spicer03/03/2017 17:56:55
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Just wondering if this is a Tapping machine and the lever at the bottom changes the engagement of the pulleys and the counter weight returns the direction to start another.

I repaired something similar a few years ago but can't remember the name.

Dave

Chris Gunn03/03/2017 20:06:47
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I'm with Dave Spicer on this one, a small tapping machine, I recall a machine called a Flash tapper. Either way a good find.

Chris Gunn

Michael Gilligan03/03/2017 20:41:15
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Posted by Phil P on 22/01/2017 14:55:07:

Possibly A Hauser. Nice find.

http://www.wefalck.eu/mm/tools/drills/drills.html

http://www.wefalck.eu/mm/tools/drills/Hauser-drill-2.JPG

Phil

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Dave & Chris,

I think you will find enlightenment by following Phil's links ^^^

MichaelG.

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