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Paul Relf-Davies10/02/2016 11:44:37
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Hi,

I've noticed that when I right click on some text, here in the text editor widget, either on the create new thread form or when I add a reply to an existing thread, I see a 'custom' context menu, as opposed to the 'standard' context menu - which is the more common menu shown in this situation on most/many other web forums.

This 'Custom' menu just has options for Cut, Copy & Paste, while the 'Standard' (browser-specific) menu adds other useful functions, in particular a spell-check tool.

I assume this 'custom' context is driven by the particular Forum Management Engine in use, but is it possible for it to be switched off in the text editor widget, in favour of the 'standard' context menu?

I appreciate that it is a particularly trivial issue, but of all the many & varied forums I use, the is the only one that enforces the use of the Forum's own context menu in the post editing widget. As such I have become used to simply right-clicking on a typo while posting, to get corrections...which of course doesn't happen here!

Like I say...no big deal...but changing this small detail would make an already excellent 'user experience' (due to the high quality of the moderation & members' posts) even better!

cheers

Paul

Steven Vine10/02/2016 12:47:11
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Hi Paul

I program in VB.Net. In that environment you have to manually assign the context menu, populate it, and then write routines to handle the selection the user makes. The editor looks like a custom made object, so I doubt if it would be an easy change.

Steve

Gray6210/02/2016 13:12:46
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Steve,

the editor used on this site is ckeditor. What appears in its context menu is relatively easy to configure. The lack of available options is just one of the many and varied foibles of the way this forum was cobbled together sad

Steven Vine10/02/2016 14:22:28
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Thanks Graeme. I just had a very quick look at the ckeditor. Apparently if you press CTRL before you right click then a different context menu appears.

So, who configures the ckeditor. Can the moderators do it or is that a job for the site programmers?

Steve

Ady110/02/2016 15:14:46
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Ctrl-c copies

Ctrl-l pastes (thats l as in leprechaun)

works for me (to be sure to be sure)

Muzzer10/02/2016 15:23:08
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You've lost me there. Ctl-C copies, Ctl-V pastes, Ctl-A all, Ctl-P print etc etc, just as normal Windows convention. Ctl-L pastes link. Is it because I is using Windows and Chrome?

Roger Provins 210/02/2016 15:25:06
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Ctrl v also pastes the clipboard directly  (to be sure to be sure)(to be sure to be sure)

Edited By Roger Provins 2 on 10/02/2016 15:25:31

Ian P10/02/2016 15:44:48
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Posted by Ady1 on 10/02/2016 15:14:46:

Ctrl-c copies

Ctrl-l pastes (thats l as in leprechaun)

works for me (to be sure to be sure)

You've lost me there. Ctl-C copies, Ctl-V pastes, Ctl-A all, Ctl-P print etc etc, just as normal Windows convention. Ctl-L pastes link. Is it because I is using Windows and Chrome?

Maybe an age thing (I've got lots of it) but I for one am getting confused.

My first thought was that there is no I in Leprechaun, then I discover there (nearly) is, because pedantically speaking its at one end (rather than 'in'. Murray confused me further because I thought he meant he (I) was using Chrome in Windows.

'I' and 'l' look very similar on my monitor.

As regards the OP's topic I think one has to accept the idiosyncrasies of this forum if one want to use it. I've long gone past expecting anything to change and am now of the opinion that it might be better to leave it is (on the devil you know etc)

Ian P

Steven Vine10/02/2016 16:17:34
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If you do 'Ctrl-RIGHTCLICK' then a different context menu appears. In Firefox it has a Spell Checker on it.

This only appears to work if you Ctrl-RightClick over some text in the post/reply editor.

Where did lepricorns come from??!!

Steve

Ajohnw10/02/2016 18:00:56
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Interesting. I have just found that if I ctrl right click I can use my spell checker. This only happens if it's an underlined error. It worked once anyway.

If I right click on a line that contains text I just get paste.

For copy paste I just use the browser facility rather than the one the forum uses. One irritating aspect of that is the font size may change but only going smaller. I tried larger out of curiosity. I notice that the font size on this forum is smaller than any other ones I am aware of. I've never been entirely happy with that aspect. I use a large high res screen. That might or might not have something to do with it. I suspect this must be tough for people who have significant vision problems.

John

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Edited By Ajohnw on 10/02/2016 18:02:15

Muzzer10/02/2016 19:37:27
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I don't have Firefox on this machine but both my default Chrome and also IE ("Edge" - wooo!) show no significant difference if you hold Ctl when right clicking. They both display different context menus to each other.

Suspect it may be Firefox-specific?

Sorry about the confusing "is it because I is...." Ali G reference. I simply meant I am using W10 and Chrome.

Steven Vine10/02/2016 20:21:08
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Hi Muzzer

I have FireFox and IE11. It is not FireFox specific. Type some text in the editor, position the cursor amongst the text, then ctrl-rightclick.

On my machine, IE11 can show two context menus, depending on where the cursor is when I Ctrl-RightClick.

If I ctrl-rightclick in the text I get a context menu (cut,copy,paste,delete,send to one note, etc)

If I ctrl-rightclick over a word that has got the squiggly line underneath, which is indicating a mistake, I get a different context menu. The content of this context menu relates to handling the mistake (suggested new spelling, ignore, add to dictionary, undo etc).

I'll post some screen shots if I get time.

Suffice to say, the Ctrl appears to override the editors context menu, which is what the OP was requesting.

Steve

Edited By Steven Vine on 10/02/2016 20:21:51

Edited By Steven Vine on 10/02/2016 20:24:51

Paul Relf-Davies10/02/2016 21:28:57
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Posted by Steven Vine on 10/02/2016 16:17:34:

If you do 'Ctrl-RIGHTCLICK' then a different context menu appears. In Firefox it has a Spell Checker on it.

This only appears to work if you Ctrl-RightClick over some text in the post/reply editor.

Where did lepricorns come from??!!

Steve

Steve - You've nailed it... Ctrl-RIGHTCLICK indeed shows the 'standard' context menu.... cheers!

P.

Steven Vine10/02/2016 21:59:29
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At the risk of labouring on. I think the context menu may have some dependency on the toolbar being used in the browser.

Glad it works for you Paul.smiley

Steve

Ajohnw10/02/2016 23:43:57
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Posted by Steven Vine on 10/02/2016 21:59:29:

At the risk of labouring on. I think the context menu may have some dependency on the toolbar being used in the browser.

Steve

thumbs up

It's nice to be able to get ctrl right to bring up the spell checker - I left toolbar as one word and think it should be now.

John

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