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MEinThailand | 06/10/2014 03:04:53 |
![]() 18 forum posts 3 photos | Thread Title: LNWR Webb Compound Jeanie Deans 2-2-2-0 ME4491 I was delighted to see the entry of James Tilbury's 5" Gauge Jeanie Deans in the IMLEC 2014 Report - Run No. 21. I remember a very long time ago reading an article in Model Engineer by LBSC about the LNWR Webb Compound Jeanie Deans 2-2-2-0 and since then have always wanted to build one but never saw any construction articles, drawings, castings etc. Then suddenly here is a 5" Gauge Model actually running. Can anyone please provide more information - where the drawings and castings etc came from etc? |
Diane Carney | 06/10/2014 09:37:28 |
419 forum posts 11 photos | Hello. I know the builder personally and will try to put the two of you in contact. Diane |
Ady1 | 06/10/2014 11:00:23 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | The original seems to have been a one-off and LBSC withheld certain design aspects of his post WW2 original JD loco which were described in 1967. from 3312 1967. Confirms that drawings are available “Jeanie Deans” intercepting valve lever Some background articles
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Ady1 | 06/10/2014 11:07:57 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | and from
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Ady1 | 06/10/2014 11:12:04 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | So if anyone has LBSCs original Jeanie Deans loco it may have a few personal steaming secrets he never released into the public domain |
Neil Wyatt | 06/10/2014 11:23:56 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | The plans for Jeannie Deans are available from MyHobbyStore as LO63 Neil |
Ady1 | 06/10/2014 11:34:28 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | Jennie Deans Set Plan LO63 They spell it differently from the original. Is that an error Neil?
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Bob Youldon | 06/10/2014 11:36:53 |
183 forum posts 20 photos | Hello Ady1, The original LBSC built Jeanie Deans went after his death to Reggie Hanks where it was stolen, sadly I do not think it was ever recovered. The 5" gauge locomotive that ran recently in IMLEC was built by I think Dave Roberts. To ME in Thailand, I do not think drawings are available for a 5" gauge version, although I do have a fairly comprehensive set of works drawings at 1.5" - 1ft which would be a good starting point. Regards, Bob Youldon |
Neil Wyatt | 06/10/2014 13:00:39 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | > They spell it differently from the original. Is that an error Neil? I don't know what else you'd call it. There are 8 sheets, cleanly scanned and beautifully drawn in LBSC's own hand. Note they are for 3 1/2" gauge. Neil |
MEinThailand | 06/10/2014 14:00:37 |
![]() 18 forum posts 3 photos | Thank you everyone for your responses. I am absolutely amazed and delighted by the responses and the level of detail. It's going to take me some time to work my way through them all but again many thank yous. From a quick scan it looks like the pages posted by Ady1 are the articles I read all those years ago. Once again thank you all and when I have read everything I may be able to respond to individual posts. Best Regards |
Ady1 | 06/10/2014 14:47:59 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | The pages I posted are from ME 2662 2672 and 3321 |
DMB | 06/10/2014 15:41:53 |
1585 forum posts 1 photos | MEinThailand, The book, "LBSC his life and locomotives" by Brian Hollingsworth/Croesor Junction Press,1982. SBN 0 86093 180 3. You may be able to borrow this from a library or buy it second hand. Backhead and LH side photos, page 71. Pages @ the back list all his locos and where to obtain drawings and castings but the sourcing info gradually becomes outdated with time as business owners retire and sell their empires on. However, in JD, A J Reeves listed as doing castings and drawings in 3 1/2"G only. The 5"G version mentioned above would have required the builder to scale up the original drawings and procure suitable castings. Another very useful book, long out of print simply detailed details of wheels, pony/driving/trailing/tender for dozens of British loco. designs. I think the Author`s name was Sharman. You should be able to find out spoke nos. from photos. John
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JasonB | 06/10/2014 17:35:34 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Don't know about the different spelling of the name but MHS could do with moving those Loco drawings out of "workshop equipment" might sell a few more then J |
Neil Wyatt | 06/10/2014 17:43:41 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | At least it's available now, many of these plans were lost on the MAP X-list for decades. Neil |
Boiler Bri | 06/10/2014 19:03:35 |
![]() 856 forum posts 212 photos | One of our club members is making this model, he used to have hair, Nuff said.
Bri |
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