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Nick_G18/03/2016 09:57:58
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Posted by gary shepherd on 17/03/2016 20:54:10:

what did you use to cut the seats ?

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I used a 3 fluted chanfer tool just to start the seat that will be mated (hopefully) properly with the valve when they are lapped.

This was done at the same time and setting the hole through the head for the ports and valve guide was made so that (again hopefully) they will be aligned.

Nick

gary18/03/2016 15:54:06
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thanks nick.

Nick_G19/03/2016 14:13:13
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Pressing on with the cylinder heads. The jig was placed back into the lathe 4 jaw and dialed in with the heads mounted onto it. This was to enable the cooling fins to be cut with a modified parting tool having ground a rounded tip.

Nick

JasonB19/03/2016 16:51:16
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Bring on the Blingsmile d

Nick_G20/03/2016 17:18:29
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I have made the valve guides and pressed them in and have made the 4 valves out of stainless OK (after making a cobblers of 2 'practice' ones) blush

I have some fine valve grinding paste and I am wondering what is the best technique for lapping in such small valves.?

Cheers, Nick

JasonB20/03/2016 17:41:46
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If its valve grinding paste from the likes of Halfords then even the fine is too rough, you really want a lapping powder and drop of oil.

Have you left the valves on the bar so they are easy to lap like I mentioned above?smile or have you parted them offsad

Nick_G20/03/2016 18:35:45
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Posted by JasonB on 20/03/2016 17:41:46:

or have you parted them offsad

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OOooooops. - Did not see that bit.! sad

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JasonB20/03/2016 18:41:11
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So you now have the option of using a slitting saw to cut a slot in the head, then you can use a small screwdriver to turn the valve back & forth while you lap it in.

Or use a small drill chuck or length of fuel tube on the stem of the valve to do the same thing.

Just twist, lift, twist, etc

Michael Gilligan20/03/2016 18:54:37
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Nick,

Remember the old 'rubber sucker on a stick'

Here; thanks to SMD electronics, is your salvation.

MichaelG.

John Rudd20/03/2016 19:31:29
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 20/03/2016 18:54:37:

Nick,

Remember the old 'rubber sucker on a stick'

MichaelG.

I still have one in my tool chest for such things.....

Gunson brought one out for use with a power drill that oscillated....

Nick_G20/03/2016 21:20:41
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Cheers for the advice guy's.

Nick

Nick_G26/03/2016 16:59:02
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Bit more progress.

As I said previously I made the valves and guides. Made the 4 valves a bit too long so that the recess made for the live centre could be tuned away.

The supports for the rocker arms have also been made. It's the little bits like this that I find take far more time than you would think.

I also made the valve springs on the lathe out of music wire.

I have to yet still shorten the valves and cut a groove in them that will allow an 'E' clip to be pressed on and hold the valve keeper and it's spring into position.

Starting to 'look' like an IC engine. smiley ............. Although knowing eyes will be aware that the time consuming and tricky bits are yet to be made. cheeky

The valves still need to be lapped. Although I have done one of them which took about 2 hours while watching TV

Nick

Nick_G27/03/2016 19:11:23
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I am thinking of using key steel to make the rockers out of. (drawing is American numbers) Is this suitable for the job and what is the stuff like to machine.?

Cheers, Nick

JasonB27/03/2016 19:50:05
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Whats wrong with mild steel?

Drawing only says "steel" smile p

Nick_G27/03/2016 20:41:46
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Posted by JasonB on 27/03/2016 19:50:05:

Drawing only says "steel" smile p

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I will carve up a pair of broken Aldi mole grips then. wink

Nick

Hopper28/03/2016 03:42:12
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Key steel is good stuff for things like rockers. It has a little more carbon in it than mild steel and machines very nicely.

Hopper28/03/2016 03:58:18
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Posted by Nick_G on 26/03/2016 16:59:02:...

The valves still need to be lapped. Although I have done one of them which took about 2 hours while watching TV

Nick

I wonder if you wouldn't be better off to make an automotive-style valve seat cutter that rotates on a precision spindle that is installed in the valve guide after the guide is installed and reamed to final ID?

Guides rarely go in dead straight so a seat cut to match the hole the guide presses into does not usually line up with the ID of the guide after it is installed.

A one-degree difference in angle between the valve and the seat is common auto practice to get a better seal without lapping at all. Might be worth trying?

Nick_G28/03/2016 10:59:30
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Thanks Hopper.

There are a few areas of the design that seem a bit weak. Having said that there are a large number of them that have been made and running without issues.

Nick

JasonB28/03/2016 13:12:30
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Nick, what are you lapping the valves with? I can usually do one in a couple of mins

Nick_G28/03/2016 13:18:07
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Posted by JasonB on 28/03/2016 13:12:30:

Nick, what are you lapping the valves with? I can usually do one in a couple of mins

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This stuff **LINK** made into a stiff paste with a tad of oil. - It's the 600 grit grade.

Nick

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