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wotsit20/01/2013 18:40:49
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I believe Jo and Neil have not only hit the nail on the head - they have driven it through the plank!. Why aren't they employed as editors of a rejuvenated ME? - these sort of things all used to appear in ME in what were surely the 'good old days' , before, as Jo says, they were hived off into specialist magazines.

David Clark 120/01/2013 18:51:54
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Hi Stub Mandrel

I have passed a flash steam article to Diane.

It includes full drawings and plans for the boat it goes in.

regards David

 

Edited By David Clark 1 on 20/01/2013 18:52:21

David Clark 120/01/2013 18:54:37
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Hi Jo

The original LBSC articles only appeared in English Mechanics.

How many readers beside you have copies of English Mechanics.

Not many I bet.

regards David

Another JohnS20/01/2013 19:09:27
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Posted by David Clark 1 on 20/01/2013 10:31:07:
I have not attempted to run CNC articles in ME. I think that would be the kiss of death for ME. Maybe in 10 years time CNC would be fine in ME.

David;

I think that above comment is insulting.

Please read the first article of:

http://cnc-for-model-engineers.blogspot.com

(Yes, it is my web page, and yes it is fairly new, and yes, I have 100 more bits from my notes to put in it.)

The fact is that there are some of us out there that do use CNC, and 3D printing, and are interested in locomotives (where CNC comes into its own, unlike my Worden build - see above page) and maybe we are not interested in purchasing Model Engineers Workshop, or equivalent.

Another JohnS

Michael Gilligan20/01/2013 19:26:39
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Posted by John Alexander Stewart on 20/01/2013 19:09:27

http://cnc-for-model-engineers.blogspot.com

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Thanks for posting the link, John

I have bookmarked your blog.

Keep up the good work!

MichaelG.

David Clark 120/01/2013 21:07:01
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Hi John

Which is the first article?

The first one on the main page says you used a manual mill rather than the CNC.

From contact with readers, they would not like CNC in Model Engineer. You only have to look at the Free ads to see the ages of ME readers selling their machines. Up in their 70s and 80s.

It is only recently that MEW readers have stopped complaining about CNC articles.

If readers really want CNC articles in ME, they will have to ask Diane. It is too late for me to put CNC into Model Engineer.

I have no objections to putting CNC into Model Engineer, it belongs there with laser and waterjet cutting. So John, when can Diane expect your first CNC article for Model Engineer. Perhaps you ought to start with CAD before you start with CNC?

regards David

Ian P20/01/2013 21:45:06
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Posted by David Clark 1 on 20/01/2013 21:07:01:

Hi John

Which is the first article?

The first one on the main page says you used a manual mill rather than the CNC.

From contact with readers, they would not like CNC in Model Engineer. You only have to look at the Free ads to see the ages of ME readers selling their machines. Up in their 70s and 80s.

It is only recently that MEW readers have stopped complaining about CNC articles.

If readers really want CNC articles in ME, they will have to ask Diane. It is too late for me to put CNC into Model Engineer.

I have no objections to putting CNC into Model Engineer, it belongs there with laser and waterjet cutting. So John, when can Diane expect your first CNC article for Model Engineer. Perhaps you ought to start with CAD before you start with CNC?

regards David

David

I respect your position as editor but feel that the tone of some of your comments on this forum is often wrong.

In your reply above you state' its only recently that readers stopped complaning' etc. Surely it would be more considerate to your readers to regard there 'complaints' as useful feedback? To automatically take the stance that the readers that take the trouble to express an opinion are complainers speaks volumes for the MHS policies.

I read and followed the recent fiasco about the exhibition weather. If your initial request had politely explained the reason for your action I doubt whether there would have been even the slightest murmurs.

Actually its not often what you say, but more the way you say it. To me it often comes across as confrontational.

Ian Phillips

Stub Mandrel20/01/2013 21:58:15
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David - that's a prompt response! Is it from Windy?

Wotsit - Very kind of you - but it is easy to be a brilliant editor when you only have to make up the titles.

Real editors need real content, so what both ME and MEW need are contributors!

So get writing!

Neil

P.S. the problem with CNC/CAD is that the articles being submitted were dominated by how to use particular programmes or full of g-code examples. I'm all for more accessible articles that appeared last year - such as one that reviewed a range of CNC/CAD programmes and explained how they worked together, or another that described RepRap.

Another JohnS20/01/2013 23:56:19
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Posted by David Clark 1 on 20/01/2013 21:07:01:

Hi John

Which is the first article?

Hi David;

I know this blogging software is backwards - it's the new way of things, I guess. The introduction is probably the last article - as these things go backwards in time.

The idea started off from talking to someone at the Taunton Exhibition last April; "does CNC help the model engineer?".

Certainly, if you read the axle box article, (and, understanding what I do about you and your background) you'll realize that I should have done it on the CNC mill, but I "chickened out" as they say over here. Still, using those "modern methods" (DRO on manual mill) in the axle box article on my blog is much better/faster than the old LBSC way, in my opinion. Machining using this idea via CNC would have been much better, especially if one were modelling a 2-8-8-2!

From discussions with club members, some of whom have CNC, or just go and get parts printed, there's an interest, and activity in CNC and 3D printing, and electronics. 

Thanks;

Another JohnS.

 

Edited By John Alexander Stewart on 21/01/2013 00:01:15

Michael Gilligan21/01/2013 09:22:56
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Posted by John Alexander Stewart on 20/01/2013 23:56:19

I know this blogging software is backwards - it's the new way of things, I guess. The introduction is probably the last article - as these things go backwards in time.

Another JohnS.

 

David [& John]

It's also the preferred way of listing revisions on Engineering Drawings; so I would have thought it obvious.

... My pile of magazines gets stacked that way too

In computer-speak I believe it's called FILO [first in, last out]

MichaelG.

 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 21/01/2013 09:31:46

HomeUse21/01/2013 09:39:53
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Hi - I seem to be getting confusedembarrassed - I read my forum in the first posting first and the last posting last -

This is done by seting it that way in the "set up" wink 2

Michael Gilligan21/01/2013 09:50:50
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Hi HomeUse

Sorry if I confused you ... This was about John Alexander Stewart's blog [referenced earlier], not the forum thread.

MichaelG.

John Stevenson21/01/2013 09:52:01
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Home use,

They are talking about John Alexanders blog page, not this forum.

Post is 8 or 9 up from this reply.

 

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Michael has longer fingers than me and can type faster.  wink

Edited By John Stevenson on 21/01/2013 09:52:59

HomeUse21/01/2013 11:48:09
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enlightened Will have to read from the first posting in future idea

Regards to all

Michael Gilligan21/01/2013 11:54:08
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 21/01/2013 09:22:56

It's also the preferred way of listing revisions on Engineering Drawings; so I would have thought it obvious.

Sorry ... In my haste, I chose a bad illustration there, because it shows the "revisions box" at the top of the drawing: But it is often at the bottom, and arranged like their parts list.

MichaelG.

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