Nick Clarke 1 | 15/06/2011 11:38:58 |
20 forum posts 6 photos | Hi there, I did not realise the fuss over the banning of steam boats at New Brighton has spilled over to the halloeed pages of Model Engineer. It was I who was pictured in the papers and on BBC North west, this ' ban' , it seems was not a prpoer ban, the council put the signs up at the request of NBMBC, whose only reason for it was, and I quote Mr Alan Dean, illustrious president of the club 'we dont want them here'. he made that comment before the fuss started in a conversation I had with him some time ago, that was all he could say after I had parried all his thrusts regarding insurance etc. I am a member of the MPBA, and am covered by their insurance. My Maccsteam boiler has a 4 year manufacturers test certificate, my little German manufactured boiler is classed as 'toy steam' I tried to have it tested, but this proved not possible, and I have been reliably informed that it does not require testing due to tis size and the fact that it falls well within the bar/litre rules. I have also been told that Mr Dean does not speak for all at the club. the man is a fool, (hope I am allowed to say that) not just my opinion, but also that of many others. Here is a link to the Modelboat Mayhem forum http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=29800.0 This bloke was interviewed by BBc and he said, on TV that ' these things can explode, sending red hot pieces of shrapnel flying in all directions, I'm not saying it will kill any body, but they will certainly maim somone' what a load of tosh, the man clearly does not know what he is talking about. Anyway, the upshot of all this is that I can sail my steamers at New Brighton lake whenever I wish, there has been no by-law put into force, so I will not be doing anything illegal and If anyone was to complain (at the lake) I couldn't care less, I am doing no wrong. |
ChrisH | 15/06/2011 12:19:15 |
1023 forum posts 30 photos | Well said Nick - what a breath of fresh air and realism.
As you say, the man is a fool, and totally devoid of common sense, like so many today.
You go sail your steamers and to hell with silly fools who are proven to be ignorant to boot!
Edited By ChrisH on 15/06/2011 12:19:55 |
ady | 15/06/2011 12:45:49 |
612 forum posts 50 photos | Nice to hear a bit of common sense prevailed with the model steamboats ------------------------------ The other accident where someone actually died sounds completely crazy. The crews of two fire engines, two police cars, two ambulances and an air ambulance were told not to enter the lake, which is no more than three feet (one metre) at its deepest point, in case they ‘compromised their safety’. |
Richard Parsons | 15/06/2011 13:09:47 |
![]() 645 forum posts 33 photos | I once asked a City Safety Manager why he had closed a foot path by the river. His reply was “Because I can”! I pointed out that the path was a grant to the citizens made by the Benedictine monks in 12 hundred and how’s your father. It the gift was made In exchange for closing the highway made by the King (Stephan of Blois). The pathway had to be there to allow the citizens to get to the river to catch fresh fish which was a right they (the citizens) had been given by the king of Wessex (Alfred). His reply was to the effect that they cannot fish anymore! |
ady | 15/06/2011 13:29:15 |
612 forum posts 50 photos | Modern Councils are like a modern day version of the medieval clergy, far too powerful and they gleefully interfere in far too much of our day to day lives. I used to wonder how the dissolution of the monasteries went through with barely a hitch back in Henry VIIIs time. These incredible assets up and down the country were stripped and left to rot, while the few big ones that still remain are breathtaking national monuments, even today. Back in 1200-1450 these places must have been incredible to behold. I reckon that most people were sick and fed up of the monastic busybodies poking their noses into everyones lives and if it meant they would never annoy anyone ever again then it was a price well worth paying. |
Nick Clarke 1 | 20/07/2014 08:40:00 |
20 forum posts 6 photos | Just been reading back over this thread, I think a quick update is in order. Three years on now and I have been happily sailing my steam boats, no one makes a fuss about it, I have not killed, maimed or injured anyone with an exploding boiler and everyone gets along just fine, and, I am now an active member of the new club. Here is a photo of my launch steaming happily around the lake. |
fizzy | 14/01/2015 21:00:30 |
![]() 1860 forum posts 121 photos | Which would I be likely to be granted permission to build first, a lake or a boiler, now theres a question? |
Harry Wilkes | 14/01/2015 21:20:08 |
![]() 1613 forum posts 72 photos | Well done Nick but must admit I had the total opposite happen to me, I live a couple of 100 yards from my local park so I thought it would be a great place to steam my 3" Burrell so I phone the head of parks for my local council told him what I would like to do and found that he was a little reticent I pointed out that once a year he had full size tracion engines in the park for a weekend "yes he said but they have paperwork and insurance" I told him I had all of that to which he replied "why did't you say your welcome to steam in the park any time" H |
ChrisH | 15/01/2015 11:46:47 |
1023 forum posts 30 photos | As I had originally ticked the box, years ago, to alert me to new posts on this thread, I got alerts for the two posts from fizzy and Harry above, but also another four posts from one other person, who's language and post content were not in accordance with the requirements of the forum. I mention this as I am so glad that the forum moderators have removed these posts which I did find offensive. I was at sea for many years so am wise to the occasionally unsavoury ways of the world. There is a time and place for everything, and for those posts it was not here and now. Well done moderators! Chris |
Neil Wyatt | 15/01/2015 12:47:40 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Thanks to the moderator who spotted and cleaned up the mess, and apologies to anyone else who was offended. The member in question has recieved a suitable response. Neil Edited By Neil Wyatt on 15/01/2015 12:48:08 |
Roger Williams 2 | 15/01/2015 13:53:59 |
368 forum posts 7 photos | About the madness of the disgusting way a man was treated lying face down in a shallow pond, there was a similar incident in Somerset a couple of years back when ambulance crews refused to help a passer by supporting a drowning person in a deep ditch, because of health and safety. A policeman turned up in a car, and without hesitation , jumped in to try and help. They got the person to safety, but to no avail. The judge summing up at the inquest, said something like " in times gone by, people helped each other without regard to their own safety, not any more. " How sad. |
ChrisH | 15/01/2015 14:04:25 |
1023 forum posts 30 photos | Neil, It was kind of you to apologise for offensive posts, but you cannot prevent anyone posting unsuitable comments, other than banning them if they persist, you can only remove the posts and give the offender a suitable warning which has been done in this instance. Brilliant! (The time of night they were posted was maybe significant? Who knows? Who cares!) Chris |
JasonB | 15/01/2015 16:06:20 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | And don't forget there is a report flag at the bottom of all posts, I was surprized nobody had clicked that but maybe I was up earlier than most. There has been a lot of activity on the forum lately so it is not always easy to read every thread so a report will get our attention sooner. As for posting time I did not look but probably about quater past closing time.
J Edited By JasonB on 15/01/2015 16:07:46 |
Steven Vine | 15/01/2015 21:27:34 |
340 forum posts 30 photos | Posted by JasonB on 15/01/2015 16:06:20:
And don't forget there is a report flag at the bottom of all posts, I was surprized nobody had clicked that but maybe I was up earlier than most.
Hi Jason FWIW ... the 'report flag' option only appears if you are logged on as a member. There is no option if you are not logged in. I saw those posts last night, thought the language was a bit strong, but was not offended as I hear that stuff all the time. The language is out of place on this Forum though (says he who let the F word slip one time and was quite rightly hauled over the coals). Steve
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