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Ian Abbott | 04/09/2009 20:36:08 |
![]() 279 forum posts 21 photos | Coal Burner states:
"As a subscriber, we have undertaken a commitment to the magazine whereas others are what I consider 'ad-hoc' purchasers."
I take it then that the 40 odd years of "ad hoc" newsagent purchased support of Model Engineer stacked in the corner, (worth, I reckon at current values to be about £2,500) isn't regarded as a "commitment".
When CoalBurner has subscribed for 40 years, then I'll regard him as having made a commitment.
Ian
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Michael Gray | 04/09/2009 22:25:19 |
![]() 45 forum posts 6 photos | Had an email from Lorna this a.m. and lo! and behold this North American subscriber (through EWA) now has access to the "subscribers only" area. Whoopee! Mike Edited By Michael Gray on 04/09/2009 22:26:17 |
Major Disaster | 16/09/2009 18:51:18 |
12 forum posts | I have been a subscriber since issue no. 2 (no.1 was bought off the shelf at WHS) and have recently renewed my subscription.
I seem to recall having to enter a subscription no. under ME for the site to let me in initially, not liking a blank entry. I used my MEW no, which I obviously put in the MEW slot.
In any event, with or without the false ME number, the site refuses to let me into subsciber only and archive material under the 'extra' tab complaining that I have to be a subscriber.
Have I been blackballed already? |
David Clark 1 | 17/09/2009 12:40:31 |
![]() 3357 forum posts 112 photos 10 articles | Hi There
You must fill in your name exactly as it says on the
grey envelope.
Even if it is spelt wrong.
regards david
The computer checks the name and subscription number against the subscription database.
regards David
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Peter G. Shaw | 17/09/2009 15:17:59 |
![]() 1531 forum posts 44 photos | Over the years I have been an ad-hoc buyer, had regular orders with the local newsagent, one or two year subscriptions, and now have the automatic DD subscription. The ad-hoc buyer requires to know that the magazine will be available on the shelf - not always done. In any case, and certainly now, means travelling in excess of 10 miles to get it. The regular newsagent order did cause the occasional problem - missing issues, something which STILL happens today with the w/e papers. The one or two year subscription got round the above problems, but requires renewal in good time. Therefore: The DD subscription, for me, makes best sense. Ok, the local newsagent is losing out, but why should I miss out just because the distributor makes a cock-up, or is too darned lazy to do the job right? On the vexed question of subsription goodies or internet available content, the goodies question does sometimes rankle, but I can live with it, however the question of internet content, especially if downloadable quite frankly has to be a no-no for non-subscribers. After all, I've paid for mine. Why should they get it free? Indeed, I can't really see any need for the internet content as I have my own referral scheme which relies on a database of articles which is updated once a month and to which I can refer in order to find whatever it is I am looking for. I have to say that all of you reading this obviously have computers, hence could just as easily make up your own database referral system. Another idea which someone else has already referred to, would be to create your own electronic version of the mag - it doesn't take long, and with today's enormous hard disks can be easily stored. As regards missing copies, there is always the public library, or Ebay, or even MyHobbyStore. Failing that, although there may be legal difficulties, an appeal via these forums for a particular article. To sum up then, those of us who have paid should not be expected to see non-payers getting it for free. Regards Peter G. Shaw |
Ian Abbott | 17/09/2009 18:15:40 |
![]() 279 forum posts 21 photos |
Peter G. Shaw says
"...quite frankly has to be a no-no for non-subscribers. After all, I've paid for mine."
So Peter, what exactly makes your money better, or worth more than the stuff paid to the newsagent? In fact you pay less than them and arguably get better service.
Now a suggestion or two. What about a scratch pad on the back cover of the magazine with a code valid for two or three weeks. The argument that it could be used by others is the same as the fact that a subscriber could allow others to use their subscriber number, also, if nicked is good for a long time.
Frankly though, this problem as it is, is a none winner. Some subscribers will always whine about not having preferential treatment and newsagent purchasers will feel miffed that they aren't appreciated.
Solution. Downloading from the web site should be by a separate subscription, no free downloads for either subscribers or ad hoc buyers. If I want to build a Metro, paying a fee for website access to aquire the articles is reasonable. Though moderately experienced modelers could build the loco from the plans given with the magazine alone.
Ian
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Peter G. Shaw | 17/09/2009 20:03:22 |
![]() 1531 forum posts 44 photos | Ian, Your money is no better, or worse, than mine. OK, perhaps I wasn't too clear there, but what is to stop someone buying one issue, and then downloading the rest? I think I would agree with your "solution" as it certainly meets my objections. Regards, Peter |
Ian Abbott | 17/09/2009 20:43:30 |
![]() 279 forum posts 21 photos | Thanks Peter,
I think that this is in reality, mostly an academic problem as most of us would only download articles out of curiosity rather than for any real modeling purposes. It's way easier than thumbing through the pile of old issues, which I for one would have difficulty finding the time to do. There's about a thousand boxed up from the last move.
I did spend a month several years ago, scanning several construction articles so that I could print them out into single readable volumes.
Never did get around to reading them. And recently, I put them out handy....... just in case I get a minute.
Ian |
Major Disaster | 18/09/2009 10:50:26 |
12 forum posts | Posted by David Clark 1 on 17/09/2009 12:40:31:
Hi There
You must fill in your name exactly as it says on the
grey envelope. Oooooh! It works. Thanks Dave.
Having spent 17 years as a computer systems engineer, I should have known better. Put it down to a senior moment.. ![]() |
Versaboss | 25/09/2009 09:54:10 |
512 forum posts 77 photos | Hi gents, after complaining several times that I, as a subscriber to both MEW and ME, can only see the MEW back issues on this website, I now have the pleasure to announce that this suddenly has changed! I am really delighted that I now also belong to the selected group of fully-flrdged members. |
Simon0362 | 25/09/2009 15:09:54 |
279 forum posts 91 photos | Hi All, I ahve attempted to access some of the early MEW issues (primarily because I can see one with what appears to be a Tinker grinder just like the one I made!) but I get a message stating that "This VCAB has expired". I can however access the ME back issues (I have subscriptions to both magazines). Is this my problem or one for David......?
Regards, Simon |
David Clark 1 | 25/09/2009 15:44:39 |
![]() 3357 forum posts 112 photos 10 articles | Hi There
One for us.
Which issue(s) are involved?
regards David
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Simon0362 | 25/09/2009 15:52:57 |
279 forum posts 91 photos | Sorry to do this to you on a Friday afternoon David... So far as I can see, it is from the earliest one (122) up to and including 133 and 136 as well. I didn't try anything more recent than those. Simon |
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