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The making of the Colchester lathe

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Boiler Bri23/04/2020 21:36:00
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No PPE. No blame claim culture in them days.

Bri

Steviegtr23/04/2020 23:50:02
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Posted by clogs on 23/04/2020 16:58:27:

I worked for an oversea's firm with it's RnD in the UK.....

the finished machine ran out at just over £4.5mill......

Our part was about a Mill......

All designed by Persons not knowing one end of a spanner from the other........yes, bias'd view.....

I spotted a major design fault, on telling the powers that B of the prob..... was told that it was calculated by a computor code by somebody with more letters after his name than the Alphabet......and not a low life like me.....

I started using Autocad some 25 to 30 yrs ago, not sure, it ran on Dos 4. . Mostly for electrical drawings. My Client Rowntree mac's & then Nestle had a battle on there hands. The problem was the product I,e Toffee crisp & After 8 mints, cost very little to make. The problem was the packaging was very expensive. The battle was with Germany where they made the same product but cheaper due to there packaging was cheaper. The R&D department was quite large. I managed to get them to let me have a copy of the packaging drawings. Within about 2 weeks I came up with a much better packaging solution , which saved around 35% on materials & forming. I gave them the drawings & boom. Nothing. Then some time later they came up with my drawings & went into production with them. Cowbags.

Saving grace if you can call it that was Germany came up with an even better design. Now most of the After 8 mints & lots of the Toffee crisp is made in Germany & at least 2 factories closed down in the UK. Sad times

Steve..

Mick B124/04/2020 12:59:18
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Posted by Michael Briggs on 23/04/2020 20:27:41:

It did Baz but didn't post, also Santa's beard and all those unguarded machine drives.

That'll be why he's on the shaper.

Doesn't bear thinking about, putting him on one o' them lathes.

The stroke on the shaper's probably shorter than his beard, so it's the safest place for him.

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Hopper24/04/2020 13:40:12
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The lack of PPE in the pic is nothing. Check out some of the videos of old machine shops on YouTube like the one linked to above on the gun factory. Pouring molten steel to cast huge naval gun barrels with no safety glasses in sight and blokes squinting through the sparks flying everywhere. Then they take glowing red barrel and put it under the drop forge steam hammer the same way.

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Mick B124/04/2020 13:48:24
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Posted by Hopper on 24/04/2020 13:40:12:

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Check out some of the videos of old machine shops on YouTube like the one linked to above on the gun factory. ...

Edited By Hopper on 24/04/2020 13:41:17

Yeah, check out their life expectancies. I seems to remember hearing that (e.g.) scythe makers in the Abbeydale estate near Sheffield rarely made it past 35.

That's why there's only one Father Christmas to however many elves.

larry phelan 124/04/2020 17:03:16
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Yet again S-O-D has hit the nail on the head. No point in turning out stuff which no-0ne can afford.

How many of you guy could afford their lathes ? Even dealing with the type of customers they do, they still face serious competition from the Far East, so they will never be too interested in the market at our level.

Nice to see how these things were made, but it,s a bit of old hat now.

You cannot step in the same stream twice.

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