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John Rudd07/05/2017 10:05:02
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Posted by Les Jones 1 on 07/05/2017 09:49:10:

Just a comment on the filter board (Item ZF on the diagram.) I think the filter board also contains a 5 volt DC power supply that is used for the tachometer. So the filter components on the board do not seem to be used.

Chris, I'm glad that your problem is sorted out.

Les.

Les,

The thought of not using the filter components had crossed my mind too, but I couldnt think why they would build one into the machine....its obvious now you pointed it out...! Its a similar if not same board used in Dusty's lathe, that was a dc machine....as the vfd has in built filters, an external one is not needed....however, I fed my vfd via the filter when swapped out for vfd, making wiring up simpler and no need for chocolate block.....

Les Jones 107/05/2017 10:11:47
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Hi John,
It is a result of looking at Dusty's problem that made me think that only the power supply was being used. I looked on the web (Which was not that simple as Warco's website is down at the moment.) to find a picture of the WM280 to confirm that it had a tachometer before posting the comment.

Les.

SillyOldDuffer07/05/2017 10:27:17
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Hi Les,

Just a quick thank you for publishing your notes on the WM250 and now explaining the filter too! ChrisB's problem caused me to look closely at my lathe for the first time, and the switching arrangements aren't immediately clear from the block diagram. I almost understand it now, and it will make it much easier to fault find if I ever have a problem.

Cheers,

Dave

Neil Wyatt07/05/2017 15:39:44
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Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 07/05/2017 09:51:17:

I would also argue that, in simple circuits like this, the loose wire approach makes it relatively easy to trace and fix individual connections: one is not faced with a mass of wires in an anonymous bundle. I guess those who like tidy wiring looms have never encountered a faulty one!

Don't say that. I've just invested in two metres of spiral wrap to tidy up my Prusa!

:-0

Neil

Gray6207/05/2017 17:25:22
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 07/05/2017 15:39:44:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 07/05/2017 09:51:17:

I would also argue that, in simple circuits like this, the loose wire approach makes it relatively easy to trace and fix individual connections: one is not faced with a mass of wires in an anonymous bundle. I guess those who like tidy wiring looms have never encountered a faulty one!

Don't say that. I've just invested in two metres of spiral wrap to tidy up my Prusa!

:-0

Neil

I would suggest that even in simple circuits, eliminating any movement in wiring will reduce the chances of premature failure within the harness. In the case of a lathe vibration may well be the most likely enemy and constraining cabling neatly in a properly thought out harness and laying it out correctly is far better than the way the Warco lathes seem to come these days. My WM250V was the same as has been depicted here unlike the GH1330 which was very neatly wired. So once out of warranty, all the wiring came out of the 250 and rewired properly in a properly laced wiring loom. I know the spira band stuff is easy but I have several rolls of the old fashioned lacing cord and enjoy making up wiring looms that way

Peter Spink07/05/2017 20:05:32
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 07/05/2017 15:39:44:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 07/05/2017 09:51:17:

I would also argue that, in simple circuits like this, the loose wire approach makes it relatively easy to trace and fix individual connections: one is not faced with a mass of wires in an anonymous bundle. I guess those who like tidy wiring looms have never encountered a faulty one!

Don't say that. I've just invested in two metres of spiral wrap to tidy up my Prusa!

:-0

Neil

Spirowrap is great stuff but you lose the will to live after ther first few inches - and a pain in the backside if you find you need an extra wire in the loom - how do I know this :-D

Good old lacing cord is much easier and cable ties done properly are fine - what would we do without them!

But the standard of wiring I've seen in these pics and the earlier posts is, frankly, abysmal.

ChrisB07/05/2017 21:40:10
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Better idea to rewire after warranty is over as you mentioned Graeme, will leave it as is for now. For sure I wont use spiral wrap if I had to rewire it (sorry Neil) I'd rather use woven self-wrapping sleeves, so much easier to put on and remove if required.

On another note, along with the lathe I got a WM18 mill which I have not switched on yet, tomorrow I'm moving it and give checking it out....wish me luck!! smile p

Edited By ChrisB on 07/05/2017 21:41:55

ChrisB09/05/2017 17:55:47
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To wrap up this thread, I had sent an email to Warco to explain my situation. Yesterday they replied and basically told me to do the same things discussed over here, check wiring etc.

I was assured their machinery is tested by an engineer prior to dispatch, so the fault could have happened during transit. Anyway I'm happy with the out come and the way Warco responded.

Although the machine might be a bit rough around the edges and maybe not as refined as other premium brands, it will do for what I need it for and for what I was willing to pay - enough to say that locally a similar sized Weiss Chinese lathe cost almost double the price of a Warco.

Edited By ChrisB on 09/05/2017 17:56:07

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