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Michael Gilligan24/01/2017 22:46:50
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Thanks, Harry

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Ady125/01/2017 00:29:53
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I also log out of my ISP periodically, and log back in.

This changes your internet address number and makes it harder for places like google to track you

Steambuff25/01/2017 00:43:49
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That depends who your ISP is and what package you are on .... I have a fixed IP Address when connecting from home, so logging out and in again will make no difference as I will always have the same address.

Dave

 

Edited By Steambuff on 25/01/2017 00:44:08

Ady125/01/2017 01:44:15
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That's pretty unusual

Means you can run your own website and server from home

Enough!25/01/2017 02:04:04
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Posted by Ady1 on 25/01/2017 01:44:15:

That's pretty unusual



Not really .... I have a fixed ip too. Almost every isp I know offers it at a small additional cost.

Whether your (dynamic) ip changes when you log off varies too. In some cases simply logging off and on again will change the ip, in others you need to log off for a few hours (or days) before it will change. Some isps recently are giving you effectively a static ip as basic (probably helps them keep track of you).

Roger Provins 225/01/2017 04:48:46
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My IP address is not "fixed" as such but it rarely changes, certainly logging off and on again would not change it.

Roger

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Howi25/01/2017 08:56:05
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Your internet IP address is assigned to your router not your computer, with dynamic addressing you would need to reboot your router to get your ISP to reassign your IP address, if static then obviously it would make no difference.

Your computer and other devices are on the internal home network and ip addresses are usually issued by your router using dhcp. Usually from the range 192.168.?.?

john carruthers25/01/2017 09:02:52
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No mention of Tor browser?
I find it an absolutely essential tool when organising regime change.

Ady125/01/2017 10:18:51
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For BT users only business users are permitted a fixed ISP address

Fixed ISPs are not allowed on a home user package

Enough!25/01/2017 17:21:34
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Posted by Howi on 25/01/2017 08:56:05:

Your internet IP address is assigned to your router not your computer, with dynamic addressing you would need to reboot your router to get your ISP to reassign your IP address,

That's what is meant by "logging off" from your isp. (At least that's the easiest way to do it. For most routers you can actually log on to your router as admin and tell it to log off and then tell it to log on again without rebooting the router).

Enough!25/01/2017 17:32:07
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Posted by Ady1 on 25/01/2017 10:18:51:

For BT users only business users are permitted a fixed ISP address
Fixed ISPs are not allowed on a home user package



I'm not really surprised, Ady. The "establishment" isps don't want you running anything on an asynchronous connection that might lead to a lot of outgoing data such as a website. Probably the same here (Canada) with Bell etc.(It's been so long since I dealt with them that I wouldn't know any more). Although there are ways to do it on a dynamic ip. Depending on the service speed it might not be worthwhile anyway.

The independent isps tend to take a more lenient view (assuming they're not "leaned on" by whoever owns the infrastructure they piggyback onto).

Bell has just run fibre right up to my house. I wonder if my (independent) isp can piggyback on that.

SillyOldDuffer25/01/2017 19:28:27
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Posted by Ady1 on 25/01/2017 00:29:53:

I also log out of my ISP periodically, and log back in.

This changes your internet address number and makes it harder for places like google to track you

Well, logging a router out and reconnecting might cause a new dynamic IP address to be issued. Or it might not. What happens depends on a wide range of unknowns.

Unfortunately, even if successful, changing IP address is low value. If the other end (ISP, or website) has planted a cookie on your machine, it's trivially easy to re-associate the cookie with your new address.

It works the other way round too: if you delete cookies (a good thing) then you can still be tracked by address until cookies are re-established. And cookies aren't the only tracking mechanism available.

Effective computer security is difficult to achieve and even harder to maintain. A false sense of security is always dangerous. It's wise to do some swotting and take reasonable precautions.

Dave

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