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Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 13:44:58
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Nick,

star

You were the spark of inspiration to get on and do something with my chuck !!

Very positive ... at least, I thought so until I started this thread.

MichaelG.

Gary Wooding06/08/2014 13:50:46
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I used to have a Boxford BUD that had a Burnerd lever-operated Multisize collet chuck. I replaced the lathe with one that has a D1-3 spindle, but kept the collet chuck that, alas, no longer fits.

If you have a D1-3 collet chuck and need one that fits a Boxford AUD, BUD, or CUD, then maybe we can trade?

Gary

Bob Brown 106/08/2014 13:54:55
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I did not read the original question correctly, so I would think a short bed 20" Colchester Bantam or a Harrison M250 is probably going to be the smallest.

Edited By Bob Brown 1 on 06/08/2014 14:09:29

John McNamara06/08/2014 14:12:47
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Hi Michael

My Lathe a Heidenreich and Harbeck 20Ro uses a Din 55027/5 spindle nose. This is basically the same as a Din 55029 (D1) spindle nose but the chuck has studs with nuts that attach through keyholes in a rotating bayonet ring instead of the cams on a D1.

This link may come in handy for you.

**LINK**

Regards
John

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 16:07:04
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Posted by Gary Wooding on 06/08/2014 13:50:46:

I used to have a Boxford BUD that had a Burnerd lever-operated Multisize collet chuck. I replaced the lathe with one that has a D1-3 spindle, but kept the collet chuck that, alas, no longer fits.

If you have a D1-3 collet chuck and need one that fits a Boxford AUD, BUD, or CUD, then maybe we can trade?

Gary

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Gary,

Thanks for the offer ... I will remember it if I should end up buying a Boxford A/B/C

MichaelG.

P.S. [mine is the key operated body, which I prefer]

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 16:08:10
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Posted by Bob Brown 1 on 06/08/2014 13:54:55:

I did not read the original question correctly, so I would think a short bed 20" Colchester Bantam or a Harrison M250 is probably going to be the smallest.

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Thanks Bob

MichaelG.

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 16:10:43
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Posted by John McNamara on 06/08/2014 14:12:47:

... Din 55027/5 spindle nose. This is basically the same as a Din 55029 (D1) spindle nose but the chuck has studs with nuts that attach through keyholes in a rotating bayonet ring instead of the cams on a D1.

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John,

Thanks for that ... very useful information.

MichaelG.

John Stevenson06/08/2014 16:56:42
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2014 13:41:49:

Quite possibly, John

... or maybe like making a Buell because you had a Harley Davidson engine available?

[feel free to subsitute other engine/frame combinations according to taste]

MichaelG.

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In which case any other combination would show taste.

Tony Ray06/08/2014 17:16:21
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Another lathe not mentioned so far is the Viceroy 280, probably similar to the Boxfords of the D1-3 variety, They seem to go for lower prices , probably because they are less wheel known. I agree if you really have no room for a D1-3 lathe, sell the chuck. A L00 nosed Boxford is probably going to set you back the same as a Bantam which really isn't a lot bigger

Tony

Michael Gilligan06/08/2014 19:56:50
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For those who don't quite "get" what I want ... this Nichols lathe is heading in the right direction, although the fitting is only D1-2 and it's disproportionately long.

A chunkier version of this; with the headstock scaled up to D1-3 would do nicely.

MichaelG.

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Edit: Maybe proportioned more like the short-bed AV1-K shown here.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2014 20:03:44

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 06/08/2014 20:04:28

Bazyle06/08/2014 23:51:38
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Are there any capstan lathes that fit the bill? They tend to have shorter beds I think..

Funny how we folk end up with bits like this. I have a 5C nose from a CVA that is also D1-3. I'd quite like the lathe it belongs to.

Andrew Evans07/08/2014 08:43:15
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I second the Denford 280 option which uses D1-3. I have one and it's a very good lathe which I got for a great price. Not sure why they are so cheap, they are certainly ugly and have plasticky handles and knobs but seem to be a fundamentally well made and very strong. They don't take up much more space than a Myford but weigh about 3 times as much.

The Burnerd collet chucks are great if you have one.

I like the camlock fitting, it makes it so easy to change chucks in a secure and repeatable way.

Michael Gilligan07/08/2014 10:28:11
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Tony and Andrew,

Thanks for mentioning the Denford 280 Viceroy ... I was not aware of it, and it may be my best option.

It appears to be of modular construction [i.e. headstock is easily removed from bed] ... is that correct?

Do you have any photographs or parts diagrams that you could share? and are there any particular weaknesses that I shoud be wary of, if buying?

MichaelG.

Bob Brown 107/08/2014 10:59:03
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I suppose a question to ask would be what foot print?

To this end I've started a thread http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=98620&p=1#PostTop

Edited By Bob Brown 1 on 07/08/2014 11:13:28

Michael Gilligan07/08/2014 11:24:36
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Good move, Bob

... It could provide a useful reference

Thanks

MichaelG

Andrew Evans08/08/2014 20:16:40
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Viceroy headstock can be removed, I think it would need a long handled Allen key though as the bolts are at the bottom of what is effectively a deep box.

Michael Gilligan08/08/2014 20:19:52
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Posted by Andrew Evans on 08/08/2014 20:16:40:

Viceroy headstock can be removed, I think it would need a long handled Allen key though as the bolts are at the bottom of what is effectively a deep box.

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Thanks, Andrew

... Much appreciated.

MichaelG.

Michael Gilligan08/08/2014 21:43:02
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Andrew,

I have just downloaded a useful "Headstock Arrangement" drawing, from here.

There may be other items of interest in that section of their forum.

MichaelG.

Mike Poole08/08/2014 22:03:38
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I think I would make a Buell if I had a complete Harley available!

Mike

Michael Gilligan08/08/2014 22:24:18
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Me too, Mike

MichaelG.

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