jason udall | 09/10/2013 11:14:09 |
2032 forum posts 41 photos | That last is interesting. So the proscription of sale of various product is a UK thing not EU. Reminds me of when CE marking and specifically EMC was introduced to UK.. A Senior rep. from trading standards ( the body lumbered with enforcement) said at a talk to industry reps. " of course all member states must enforce this directive since it has the status of LAW ( my caps.) , individual states will from past experience implement this in different ways..the Germans will throughly enforce on both imports and domestic production, the Italians and Spanish will follow a case by case solution. .what passed last week might not this week. .and might next week.., the French will rigorously enforce on all imports ..only, the UK will enforce on all domestic production ..only being too polite to reject other contries product." This was all before CE stood for ChineseExport |
Russell Eberhardt | 09/10/2013 11:33:07 |
![]() 2785 forum posts 87 photos | Jason, When I worked on some EU committees some time ago the difference between the nationalities was striking: Germans - wanted everything standardised because if it wasn't specified in the standard they couldn't do it. Italians - wanted to produce a long winded academic paper on every aspect. British - didn't want anything standardised. Spanish - couldn't be bothered to turn up. French - would agree to anything because they would ignore the rules anyway. Russell |
jason udall | 09/10/2013 12:59:17 |
2032 forum posts 41 photos | Russell .That bears out much of my experience. Once had a drawing for a part for german company. Material spec was in effect misspelt. Couldn't get that material obviously . Couldn't change drawing. Couldn't get concession. Couldn't make part |
mick H | 09/10/2013 15:57:00 |
795 forum posts 34 photos | I did ask a retailer why it was so difficult to obtain stuff that seems to be freely available on the continent, USA, Australia etc. His view was that the Health & Safety industry together with the Risk Assessment industry and Insurance Industry, in conspiring to make maximum profits for themselves have ensured that their fellow citizens suffer for their corporate greed. Add to this the classic "jobsworth" mentality of British officialdom and we arrive at the situation we are in. He cited an example of trying to obtain methylated spirit but his carrier had been prohibited from carrying it by insurance risk assessors, notwithstanding the fact that the delivery vehicle by necessity had a fuel tank of diesel at best and petrol at worst. Mick |
Gordon Wass | 09/10/2013 16:09:42 |
57 forum posts | I was moaning about the difficulty of buying quite common materials on another post. When I remember buying ether, carbide, sulpher etc. when I was about 12 years old. I think one problem is just that there is no demand now, so no reason to stock it. I was quoted the safety thing for getting meths. and pointed out it can be sent by post. BTW meths. in UK does now have more water added. |
Stub Mandrel | 09/10/2013 17:30:20 |
![]() 4318 forum posts 291 photos 1 articles | The brake pipe I bought in Halfords this week was marked "to be installed only by a qualified mechanic". Neil |
mick H | 09/10/2013 18:47:29 |
795 forum posts 34 photos | Posted by Gordon Wass on 09/10/2013 16:09:42:
I think one problem is just that there is no demand now, so no reason to stock it. I understand your point Gordon but I sometimes think that this is trotted out as a convenient excuse. As an example, for some time my local newsagent regularly sold out of my title before I could get to the shop where I was usually greeted by "We've sold out" "Why not order more." "There is no demand." "How come you have sold out if there is no demand but you've still got dozens of tabloids on the shelves for which you presumably do have a demand?" Stony silence. Eventually, they did order more and guess what.....they sold out of those as well. This type of occurrence is quite commonplace but, as far as I am concerned, if I want it, there is a demand for it, and I am pretty sure I wouldn't be the only one. Before someone comes on whining about the difficulties involved, it seems to me that the big boys that stock thousands of lines are the ones making the profits, much as I deplore the decimation of the high streets. Mick |
ChrisH | 09/10/2013 20:47:12 |
1023 forum posts 30 photos | We're off topic, but I remember a short while ago buying a little electric gadget that could have been hard wired into a fused socket or could have been fitted with a three pin plug, in the latter case the instruction went on, it should be fitted by a suitably qualified person. Buggar I thought, missed out on the 'How to fit a three pin Plug' course, thought that would have been a jolly day out. Wonder how we went on before everything electrical from the shop came with bare wires, and a three pin plug, complete with a 13amp fuse - usually the one fuse you didn't need - coming as an extra to buy. We'll all be walking round in bubble wrap soon, case we fall over, to pleas 'elf n safety........... Edited By ChrisH on 09/10/2013 20:48:37 |
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