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For my Boxford shaper square bolts etc

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Hopper09/05/2013 03:28:18
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Drill your hole, mark the square out carefully, stick it in the vice and hand file it to size with a square file and finish off with your three-sided file to get the corners nice and sharp. One hour's work, tops.

Depending on what size hole you are making, 10-inch files should shift the metal fairly quickly for you. You'll have it done before you would get the filing machine set up.

Another alternative is set it up in the lathe with a boring bar type tool with square corner on it and run the carriage back and forth like when doing slotting and gradually bring the tool out using cross slide. Use a small tool and do one corner at a time.

russell10/05/2013 04:19:45
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my tongue was rather in my cheek when i proposed blacksmithing methods, but it is a perfectly viable approach. re steel selection, absolutely, plain MS would do for both the drift and the spanner, but any form of hardening will prolong the life. Having said that, I'd probably prefer the spanner to wear than damage the machine it's being applied to. But when one starts to wear, the other probably will too.

russ

OuBallie10/05/2013 09:16:07
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Hopper,
Thanks for your response.
Your first method is exactly how I would have approached it, if that is, I wasn't in possession of the filing machine, but if my previous examples where anything to go by, the square holes would have turned out anything but square.
The "Excel" leaves the corners nicely rounded using the machine diles I habe, which correspond to that on the nuts/drive.
I've been averse to square corners, that may induce stress/fatigue fractures, ever since a pro engine builder kept repeating that to me, when I was building my racing engines in the '70s.

Russell

You said it with such a straight face, it was pretty convincing
The "Excel" performance was exemplary, once I got used to using it that is.
Today I will put handles on, but have a dilemma:
A cranked handle for the manual ram spanner is a given, but not sure what to use on the crank gear sliding block spanner. It's 4" long and will be used on the other nuts as well, so either a straight handle welded on, or drill the end and fit a shaft, captive or sliding for leverage.
Time to use the grey matter to visualize what's needed at the machine.
Geoff - Recovered from yesterday's far too early a jaunt.
Ian S C10/05/2013 12:38:59
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If you are worried about square corners, mark out the sqare for the hole, and drill the corners, something like 2 or 3 mm, drill the center to full dia, file the sides of the square into the holes at the corners, done. Ian S C

Saxalby10/05/2013 17:28:02
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I was missing the the tool from my Boxford shaper and made a square drive spanner the easy way. Simply bought a socket (any size) with a 3/8 inch square drive and welded / brazed that to a piece of cranked flat steel bar. Been using it for several years now.

OuBallie10/05/2013 19:31:19
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Spanners done!

Used the shaper for the first time in anger in the process as well.

Photos uploaded.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Saxalby,

That solution never even crossed my mind.

Well, I did use the filing machine and the shaper with my approach, so I at least made a start in learning how to use them.

Geoff - I must must improve on my stick welding. It's horrid!

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