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JasonB06/08/2011 17:01:26
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"There are names in the front of all MyHobbyStore magazines to write letters of complaint to."
 
Do people still write letters? an e-mail contact would be more use in this day & age.
 
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Gone Away06/08/2011 17:20:31
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Posted by keithmart on 06/08/2011 16:12:38:

Someone MUST be responsible for this web site and it's contents, it should not be such a difficult job finding out who that is and being able to contact them!

 
I believe you're thinking there, Keith, of the hands-on person who deals with this stuff on a day-to-day basis or someone close to that level. Why do you need to track him/her down? Chances are if you do you'll end up with someone who has no real control anyway.
 
Why not seek out his boss? Or his boss's boss; or his boss's boss's boss. And keep them in the loop if they pass the buck downwards.
 
I believe David gave a pointer when he referred to the list in the magazine (contents page). There are a few names there under "Marketing and Subscriptions" and "Management" that would seem to be appropriate places to start. Send complaints to all of them if you can't decide.
Gone Away06/08/2011 17:29:02
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Posted by Steambuff on 06/08/2011 10:56:29:

OK ... if I go into 'Super Zoom' (Can only see the top third of the page then I see a "Print this page" Icon
Not the best solution ... but better than nothing.

Once you get into zoom, use your mouse scroll wheel to resize the page.
keithmart06/08/2011 18:28:08
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Hi


Just for the record I have just posted 5 emails, plus a copy to DC


Regards


keith

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David Clark 106/08/2011 19:15:08
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Hi There
I have received an email of complaint.
regards David
 
Chris Trice07/08/2011 11:11:40
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I have to say I'm not sure I'm entirely happy about features on virtual tooling. I'm sure the principles are sound but without being built they remain theoretical and unproven. I wonder how a whole article on a steam locomotive ONLY built in the computer would go down in Model Engineer magazine? Now if someone had built it....
 
Gordon W07/08/2011 11:30:56
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Chris, are you referring to the "planer" ? Last night I designed a brilliant new method to simplify parting off, at any diameter. Unfortunately I woke up before the drawing was finished.
John Stevenson07/08/2011 11:36:08
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Posted by Chris Trice on 07/08/2011 11:11:40:
I have to say I'm not sure I'm entirely happy about features on virtual tooling. I'm sure the principles are sound but without being built they remain theoretical and unproven. I wonder how a whole article on a steam locomotive ONLY built in the computer would go down in Model Engineer magazine? Now if someone had built it....
 
 
I knew [ dead now ] a retired engineer who lived in a nursing home who was building Minnie on the computer using Solid Works or Solid edge, one of the 3D modelling packages.
 
He spent a few hours per day and got immense satisfaction out of it. He had most of it done before he died and he once told me that the most satisfying part was he'd not broken on tap in the building of it
 
John S
David Clark 107/08/2011 12:15:44
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Hi Chris
It was an interesting method of using the lathe.
It would have to be different for each individual lathe so there was no point in adding dimensions.
I saw it as a good idea and the basis of a good project for readers.
If it was complicated and open to errors, I would not have published it.
It was simply a handle to push the cross slide backwards and forwards.
It seemed very well thought out.
regards David
 
Chris Trice07/08/2011 13:17:50
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I don't think prototyping stuff in the computer, where you can easily alter things and tweak the layout before you start cutting metal, is a bad thing but it is unproven in the real world. The magazine covers computer prototyping, which is good but always as part of the process to an end product in meat land. It just feels like only half a job has been done.
 
What John says is cool. A hobby is a hobby which we do to enjoy and we tailor our enjoyment based on what's available to us. In this case building a computer model is satisfying in itself but it's a different skill set. There is some crossover but it's not exactly the same.
 
I don't disagree that the principles were all sound but computer modelling is computer modelling. I would feel equally short changed if one of the plastic kit mags had someone scan an Airfix kit and build it in the computer only. I only mention it in the context of personal reader feedback.
Steambuff07/08/2011 13:50:27
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Posted by Chris Trice on 07/08/2011 13:17:50:
I don't think prototyping stuff in the computer, where you can easily alter things and tweak the layout before you start cutting metal, is a bad thing but it is unproven in the real world.

I disagree with Chris .... Roundhouse Engineering use this method to design there new 16mm locomotives. Designed, Prototyped and Tested on the computer before cutting any metal.
 
Dave
 
 
 
 
 
Chris Trice07/08/2011 16:55:25
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It's a useful tool for doing that but you've only simulated it in a computer. You may be confident it'll all work but it remains unproven until you do it for real. You can test the mechanical principles are sound in a broad sense as part of the design stage but you can't be sure there isn't an unseen issue until you make one. It may be the other end of the scale but how many aircraft manufacturers make test aircraft and no modifications despite all aspects of modern manufacturing saying that what they're cadding is perfect? In this case we're talking a very simple device which we can probably be highly confident will work but where do you draw the line? In my opinion, it's the tip of an undesirable precedent because if that's OK, why bother wasting metal at all. How would readers feel if all contributors make their items in a computer because by definition if one is acceptable then it must be OK for all? I don't think readers want to see that. I think readers want to see things carried through to the making stage rather than an unbuilt proposition that probably but not definitely might work.
keithmart10/08/2011 13:22:14
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Hi


Back to the digital issue, has anyone noticed that there are pages missing?


They are advertisements, but I thought we have had that argument before. It seems very odd to me as most of the magazines adverts are included.


I wonder what the advertisers make of it!


I have as yet received no answers to my 5 emails to senior management, perhaps that says something about the organisation.


Regards

Keith

Leeds UK

David Clark 110/08/2011 14:55:42
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Hi Keith
Which digital issues?
All numbered pages should be included.
All non numbered pages were not.
I now number all pages so they should be included.
 
regards David
 
keithmart10/08/2011 17:50:53
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Hi David


MEW 180


Keith


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David Clark 110/08/2011 18:07:57
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Hi Keith
Yes, not correct.
I will shout at them.
regards david
 
David Clark 110/08/2011 18:18:18
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Hi Keith
ME is wrong as well.
I have emailed them.
regards David
 
Alan Jackson10/08/2011 22:22:19
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Figure 9 on page 40 of MEW180 shows a right angled slit into the bore to clamp the shaft.
This is a good example of computer design which is untested. How would you propose a potential builder would cut this slit? If we all can do proposed designs in virtual reality using virtual materials which are strong, hard, straight and cost free it will save a lot of trouble doing things the old fashioned way. If this had happened a few years earlier I think Myfords would have closed down much sooner than they did. Also just think of the electricity saved by going virtual, the new green model engineering.
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Posted by Alan Jackson on 10/08/2011 22:22:19:
Figure 9 on page 40 of MEW180 shows a right angled slit into the bore to clamp the shaft.
This is a good example of computer design which is untested. How would you propose a potential builder would cut this slit?
 
 
Put it on the mill and run a slitting saw through it?
 
(Given its context, your question appears to be rhetorical so perhaps I'm missing something? I haven't read the article - just looked at the picture reference).
 

Edited By Sid Herbage on 10/08/2011 23:05:45

Andrew Johnston10/08/2011 23:11:30
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Posted by Alan Jackson on 10/08/2011 22:22:19:
Figure 9 on page 40 of MEW180 shows a right angled slit into the bore to clamp the shaft.
This is a good example of computer design which is untested. How would you propose a potential builder would cut this slit?
 
 
Wire EDM
 
Andrew

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