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Stuart Smith 502/01/2022 15:54:35
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Michael

The process I linked to imports/exports from/to sim to phone, not to google account.

My Samsung phone is Android 7, but has options to import/export from/to SIM card and also an option ‘move device contacts’ which uses google or Samsung account on my phone.

I have my contacts on my phone. If I select to view Google contacts, it shows ‘none’.

The other thing that occurred to me is can you not keep your existing SIM card?

Stuart

Michael Gilligan02/01/2022 17:31:46
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Posted by Stuart Smith 5 on 02/01/2022 15:54:35:

Michael

The process I linked to imports/exports from/to sim to phone, not to google account.

My Samsung phone is Android 7, but has options to import/export from/to SIM card and also an option ‘move device contacts’ which uses google or Samsung account on my phone.

I have my contacts on my phone. If I select to view Google contacts, it shows ‘none’.

The other thing that occurred to me is can you not keep your existing SIM card?

Stuart

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I will have a good look this evening, Stuart

Yes my existing SIM card is installed in the new 'phone ... but its contacts are not accessible

The only option seems to be to either import them to Google, or to start afresh !

MichaelG.

Ian P02/01/2022 20:09:32
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I stopped worrying about what Google (and many other companies/organisations) know about me, it seems even if one goes 'off grid' the data is still out there. I'm not sure where my (Huawei) phone keeps its phone numbers but when I last looked at my SIM card contents on a USB reader it only had about twenty phone numbers which are a hangovers from a previous Nokia I had.

I dont think this video (link below) is taking this thread too far off-topic but its enlightened and frightened me on the subject of WiFi

WiFi visibility

Ian P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXEe2kqiYIM&t=191s

Nick Clarke 302/01/2022 21:34:08
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I keep no financial information on my android phone or android tablet and no passwords. OK it is a bit of time to add these each time I need them, but it works for me.

I used to worry about my personal (non financial) information being accessible but a more rational consideration was that while important to me, it was actually of little use to anyone else.

A possible additional issue is that I have just had to calm down my grown up autistic daughter whose phone had been bricked by an upgrade to android 12 - apparently a not infrequent issue so worth checking on as well.

Robert Atkinson 202/01/2022 22:23:53
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Much as they would like you, and ask you repeatedly in several ways, you do NOT have to share or Sync your contacts with your Google account. You also don't have to log into your Google account to access the Play store. Just continue without agreeing. I just did all this with a new device I got for Christmas.

Michael Gilligan02/01/2022 22:50:01
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It is interesting to compare this image from the tutorial that Stuart kindly linked:

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with this image of my screen [purple boxes added to highlight the two significant differences]

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O.K. … it looks like I should be able import the contacts to the device, and avoid the Google account,

but it’s a minefield for the unwary.

MichaelG.

Michael Gilligan02/01/2022 23:16:37
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As if that wasn’t enough … the Moon+ Reader App, which comes pre-installed, ‘needs’ these permissions:

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As the man once yelled:

YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS !

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It has been terminated with extreme prejudice.

MichaelG.

Kiwi Bloke02/01/2022 23:52:06
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And so, realisation slowly dawns that the smartphone and the internet that you thought were your obedient servants are, in fact, devious and duplicitous spies. Android and the Chrome browser exist to suck up as much information as practicable about the 'user' (slave would be a better word) and send it to Google. Then, of course, the sites you visit, harvest as much as they can (and do other, unknown, things), using cookies, scripts, tracker pixels, etc., etc. Unfortunately, the 'authorities' in several supposedly civilised and democratic countries have been shown to have little regard to the law, when it comes to data-harvesting and privacy. It's easy to find out some of this stuff, from reputable sources, if you think I'm just a prophet of doom and a crank.

Paranoia is entirely appropriate and is not just for the tin-foil hat wearers. Silicon Chip Magazine (Australia) has just run a two-part article entitled 'Big Brother is Tracking You!' 'Fraid some of the technical stuff is beyond me, but the message is clear enough. You can't even stop your smartphone from giving away your location when it's turned 'off' - because it certainly isn't off. We live in a very well-developed 'surveillance society' and your smartphone is the most powerful traitor, even though you welcome it into your home and take it everywhere with you.

Fortunately, there is some resistance available, such as VPNs and 'De-Googled Chromium', but the best thing to do with your smartphone is to throw it away, until secure operating systems can reliably be loaded in place of Android.

Peter Greene03/01/2022 01:45:57
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Posted by Kiwi Bloke on 02/01/2022 23:52:06:

Unfortunately, the 'authorities' in several supposedly civilised and democratic countries have been shown to have little regard to the law, when it comes to data-harvesting and privacy.

Supposedly the US government is trying to rein in the Googles etc of the world. Remains to be seen whether Google et al has more power than they do.

Link

Nick Clarke 303/01/2022 10:33:24
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Latest facetious comment going the rounds :-

"Thinks - I wonder if I am being monitored by my home technology?"

"Alexa - Am I being monitored by my home technology?"

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