Circuit diagram required
Robert Atkinson 2 | 31/08/2019 14:41:32 |
![]() 1891 forum posts 37 photos | You don't need anything that fancy in reality. JJust a 12V transformer and a bridge rectifier will d just fine for running a motor. A 100VA 12V transformer will be big enough for intermittant use and a 150VA one for constant duty. A 25A bridge is recommened they are cheap enough. Robert G8RPI |
Neil Wyatt | 31/08/2019 14:47:29 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | My 3D printer uses a PC power supply with a couple of power resistors to keep it happy. One nice thing is I added a switch in the standby circuit. For my astro I have a nominal 12V 150W psu like the one in SOD's post. I deliberately went for one greatly over-rated for my needs. I run it at a higher voltage to mimic a car battery then have two switching regulators to give me 12V and 5V for other devices. Neil |
William Chitham | 31/08/2019 14:49:17 |
156 forum posts 56 photos | Posted by Les Jones 1 on 31/08/2019 14:40:16:
Hi William, Les. Ho hum, should have asked here first, still, I think there is room for it in the "bound to come in useful eventually " box. William. |
SillyOldDuffer | 31/08/2019 15:32:36 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | Posted by Frances IoM on 31/08/2019 13:54:06:
a charger for a 12V lead acid battery will deliver near 14V if old fashioned type - modern chargers will sense output + current and may not like a motor connected as no voltage on initial startup looks like a shorted battery Good point, whilst old-fashioned battery chargers are simple beasts that don't care about the load the same can't be assumed about today's magic boxes. I've not taken one apart yet, but a fast-charge unit I looked at in a shop recently was too light to contain a hefty transformer. As with wall-warts, I suspect transformers are being replaced by switch-mode power supplies, and once that's done it's trivial to specialise the electronics to do proper battery charging. So a new battery charger could well be a close relative of a LED PSU with the added disadvantage of throwing a wobbler if the load doesn't behave like a charging battery. Although a smart charger refusing to run a motor properly because it's profiling volts and amps might be seen as a step back, at least the new one is clever enough not to damage batteries as is possible with a simple transformer/rectifier. Maybe! Dave |
Michael Gilligan | 31/08/2019 16:13:15 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | When making my original suggestion, I assumed [based on its declared purpose] that the motor would only be used intermittently. In which case, I was thinking of a battery somthing like this: **LINK** https://docs-emea.rs-online.com/webdocs/16c3/0900766b816c34e3.pdf ... Which can be kept on permanent trickle charge. Is that unrealistic ? MichaelG.
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Frances IoM | 31/08/2019 18:35:10 |
1395 forum posts 30 photos | SOD - yes the cost of a 120+VA transformer is way more than the cost of a single IC and a few components using a switched mode technique - these usually auto sense a 6V or 12V battery + depth of discharge - I suspect the 24V are similar. Gone are the days of a heavy transformer and the selenium rectifiers that indicated failure by odour. Re ATX PSU's most do have a 5v minimum load requirement - the 80A server type are adjustable between 12.1 and typ 12.5V to allow for cable loss enroute to the compter board - on which is generally a smaller switch mode supply for the 3.3V - tho the one I illustrated will supply an 8A 3.3V standby supply for keeping some circuitry alive - it would be useful if two could be placed in serial to provide 24V but on all I've seen the bonding back to the case + earth makes this tricky (doable but needs a very awkward chassis isolation of one PSU) |
Brian Fisher 1 | 01/09/2019 16:36:11 |
7 forum posts | Hi. Thanks for all your responses to date. I have not been ignoring you all but have been inwardly digesting all the comments. I am learning a lot from it all. One thought which has come to mind is that if a 20amp led power supply objected to the high inrush current of a motor would it improve things if a variable resistance was wired in series with the motor to give it a soft start. So long as I always remember to use max resistance at start-up. Or alternatively one of Geoff's suggested speed control devices. Cheers. Brian |
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