WHERE ARE THE SHAPER USERS ?

I’m not shaping yet but here’s a pic of my Alba 1A to Elliot 10M poly vee conversion. sorry it’s inverted.

Hopefully I should be the owner of a Boxford MK2 8" shaper next week. I see, from the photos, that it has holes through the base which i presume are for lifting it. Can anyone tell me what diameter they are so that I can get some bars set up for it?

Ian

Ian -

Well, we'll keep our fingers crossed!

Do you have the manual for it?

It might not give the diameters of the presumed-lifting holes, but it may give other advice on lifting the machine, including its weight.

Elliot 10M is very clear on lifting ! set the ram at mid stroke and use a rope strop. lifting on the ram. If the machine is on a stand, the 10M is top heavy and doesn't need much to cause it to topple over. Be careful. Noel.

I do have a manual, looks like someone has reprinted it, for it but it doesn`t show any information on weights or lifting points. I wouldn`t like to lift it with the ram.

Tried Boxford as well but they don`t have any information on their old machines and everyone who knew anything about them has retired.

Just measured mine and they are a touch over 28mm diameter, so a couple of 1” bars would be perfect.

Thanks very much Steve.

Ian

I don't think the shaper would go much on being lifted by the ram, either!

Looked at DRO stuff recently but the prices were a bit on the high side for an experiment

So I got a couple of cheapies and I'm very impressed with my first impressions, they are good to a couple of hundredths of a mm without any serious effort on my old jalopy

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The cheap dros are in a different league to calipers, they feel better and record movement far more readily

Edited By Ady1 on 10/03/2021 17:16:20

The idea of lifting by the ram is not mine - It's from the Elliot 10M handbook. I quote -" It is important to sling the machine correctly and Fig1 shows the method we recommend. Remove the ram guards and set ram so that the endof the Vslide is just inside body guides at the front of the machine. Sling under ram casting at the front and ram Vees at the rear as shown". Having been trapped when a 10M toppled I can vouch for the fact that mounted on a pressed steel cabinet the machine is VERY top heavy. Lifting with the weight above the C of G is to invite disaster!!!!    Noel

Edited By noel shelley on 10/03/2021 18:08:04

Edited By noel shelley on 10/03/2021 18:12:08

The Klopp shaper is now sold

My Boxford shaper has arrived and has had the electrics removed so that I can replace them with some more modern stuff. I would have liked to remove the table but cant get the internal nut off. The previous owner has pinned it through the shaft.

Had a go at punching it our but its solid. The nut has a grub screw so I dont know why the pin was fitted.

Can anyone tell me how to remove the table drive assembly shown below.

The bush on the front of it had also been pinned with a taper pin which came out easily enough but I cant get the assembly off the shaft, The outer bracket and spacer rotate on the shaft but the pinion does not which I think is correct. I presume the pinion is keyed but cant get it off. Since the cast bracket has already been repaired I didnt want to force it.

Hi, have you downloaded the drawings from Boxford's website?

Alan,

I did contact Boxford and they said they dont have any information left for the shaper. I will have a look on their site and see if I can find them.

Alan,

thanks for the info. I managed to find the drawings on their site. They arent too clear but it looks like I`m missing some parts for the vertical drive. If anyone has the version with both table feeds could they possibly take a photo of the gearing and post it please.

Also it looks like the taper pins are supposed to be fitted.

Edited By Ian McVickers on 20/03/2021 17:57:39

Vertical feed is obtained by sliding the sleeve gear from its shaft and refitting it to the lower vacant shaft. Will try to take photos tomorrow.

First photo vert feed second horizon feed

Thanks Bernard.

I managed to get it removed today without any hassle. No idea what was wrong before. Im going to have to get the bracket brazed as now i`ve got it removed I can see the break and it needs a better fix.

Shaper as delivered

Shaper nearly finished.

Still have the vice to look at and need to get the table off and cleaned and painted.

Electrics are all done and it runs nice and smoothly.

Still hijacking this thread a bit... Had a go at tig brazing the cast bracket and it turned out ok.

After welding left it on the heater overnight to gradually cool. The material ended up being rather hard around the weld so had to grind it down.

A bit of machining to get the hole round again and its ready for painting.