Member postings for larry phelan 1

Howard,

Would love to see a few pictures of your device. Have not had that problem yet,and I mean yet,but I,m sure it,s out there waiting for me. Do try posting.

Howard,

Welcome to the club of difficult posters !

Now,I see a use for your idea,same thing happened to me once,very difficult to remove.

Can,t beat an exchange of ideas,everyone learns something from it.

Posting pictures is easy,so long as you can remember what you did last time,and have an hour or two to spare !

Dont start me on that one !!!

Thanks Neil for that ! That,s more than I could do.

Hi Geoff,

I,m back again. I have posted some photos in my album [more by luck than anything else ] which should help to explain how this thing works.

I want it mainly to deal with open end sleeves and to avoid causing damage to the threaded end of the arbor.

By the way,,,, USE A BRASS DRIFT NEVER A STEEL ONE !.

Hope this helps.

Hi Geoff,

Will try posting a picture but I,m not very good at it [like many things ]

Think of it like this ; The whole idea is to prevent the outer sleeve moving when you strike the inner blank arbor with the drift.. There needs to be some means to prevent it from moving away with the arbor,and this is what the clamp does. It,s the same as putting two strips under the sleeve,trying to hold them there while you try to hold a drift and a hammer,all at the same time ! Not easy ! how do I know ? Been there,done that,too often !

In use it is very simple; Take the clamp apart,bring it together again with the sleeve on topside and arbor on bottom side. Do up nuts hand tight

Place entire assy either on top of vise jaws or better still on top of a piece of tube,round or box,makes no difference.

I use box because I happened to have a piece to hand. With the tube sitting upright on the bench,there is no danger of the arbor dropping to the floor,and as they say "The rest is history"

It,s so simple it,s silly but it works !

Have any of you ever had difficulty removing open ended sleeves from Morse taper blank arbors ?

Many times I have found it very difficult to remove them,without doing damage to the threaded end. I have come up with this idea,for what it,s worth. All I can say about it is that it works. I have posted a picture of it in my album [took me ages to do it ] All you need is a strip of flat steel about 60x4mm or 76x4mm or whatever you have to hand. All that matters is that it fits the gap between the sleeve and the arbor. Drill a hole to suit the dia at that point,then weld on two pieces of 12mm,long enough to cover the with of the strip you are using,having been drilled through 6mm. The whole unit can now be split to give two sections and a short piece of 6mm studding welded into one side of the unit.The studs pass through the other 12mm guide and are held there by two nuts.

In use,the device is simply clamped around the sleeve/arbor,the whole assy positioned over the end of a length of box tube and a brass drift and hammer applied. The parts will be only too happy to part company,with no damage to either part.

I found that for the two sizes of interest to us, hole sizes of 18mm and 23mm were OK.

Sorry if this is Old Hat,but I found it to be like seeing "Light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel"

Over the years I found it almost impossible to separate some of these items and not having enough open ended sleeves,it became a total P-I-T-A

Feel free to comment,good or bad,no offence intended,or taken !

Brian,

That would not be hard !

Seems like we both hit pay dirt together !

Martin,

For once the Gods are with me ! Why is it that it,s always the last mag you look at that,s the one you want ?

Went through a pile of them plus many cups of tea and then----Bingo !

The issue in question is No 126 June 2007.

Now,there are two ways of dealing with this;

A I could try getting photo copies of the pages and post them to you

B I could just post the whole mag to you and you could could send it back when you,re finished with it.

I think this might be the better option since there,s other good stuff in there too.

What do you think?

Larry.

Martin,Have just gone through a pile of my back numbers,without finding it,but do not give up yet ! I have mags all over the place and I did read it,so it,s there somewhere.I will dig up another pile and go through them [better than looking at TV ]

What I need is a better filing system. No,what I need is a filing system !

Hang in there for another while.

Martin,

This very subject was covered in an article M,E.W a few years back. I still have the issue and will look it up later,if you wish.My intention was to make one for my own saw,but did I? not yet,anyway !

To date I have not had any problems with breaking blades,but there is no doubt that a damper would be a good idea.

This might get me thinking again.

Neat ! I like it ! The things some guys come up with ??????

My Chester Craftsman lathe came with a steel cover and a plastic ? one. The only time I ever use the "plastic "one is when I,m working brass. Steel chips in the eye are bad enough,but brass ones are BAD BAD BAD ! They are not the easiest thing to remove,and do they hurt ? do they hell !

So I would say,yes, a full face shield by all means [makes you look better,sometimes ! ],but still work it dry.

cast iron is DIRTY DIRTY DIRTY Full stop ! Again,work it dry.

This is my tuppence worth.

Ask and thou shall receive !!!

Gears !!! such a wonderful subject !

Have to say one thing for the rats--they never miss a chance of a free lunch !!

I,d say that driver was looking for another job------Pronto !

Can you imagine the mess ?????,to say nothing of the stocktaking afterwards !

More hurry----less speed ?

Ady1,

Do you think I might be a bit old,at 80,to try one or the other ??

Just asking !!

Parting off ! The old foe,once again ! I find that the rear post does help a lot [most times ]

SOD,Yes,I would be with you on this,20 years on,I am still happy enough with my "Chinese junk"

Problem is that buying secondhand means that you are buying some other guys problems,OK if you have time to solve them,and they come at the right price. Otherwise give them a miss,and get something that works of of the box,or crate. Life is too short to be messing around.

Stands to reason that any machine that has been around for half a lifetime,has been through the wars.

Do the sums !! Do you really want to be setting it up for someone else ?

Hi Terry,

Bit of a change from your previous experience !!

As Chris says,you dont need a huge amount of gear,a few pieces of HSS blanks will give you all the cutters you need. A good Micrometer and an Aldi caliper plus a 6" rule,and you,re away on a hack !

However,Beware,this is only the beginning,and there is no going back !!!!! How do I know? Ask me !

But still,it,s worth it and you will not want for help,just ask,someone out there has the answer.

Enjoy .