Brian Abbott | 04/07/2014 12:48:59 |
![]() 523 forum posts 95 photos | Hello All.. A Friend of mine is wanting to start building the L C Mason 1" minnie. The original plans are still avaialble but there also seems to be a metric version available. Has anyone built from these plans ? wondered if they where any good. Thanks |
JasonB | 04/07/2014 13:50:22 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | The metric plans have only been about for a couple of months so certainly none completed, I have read of a few other people thinking of starting one using the metric drawings but not seen any sign of work. There are a couple of things that are not right on the metric drawing such as the cylinder studs protruding from the boiler, OK on full size where they could send a boy into the boiler through the manhole but in miniature you would never get the cylinder in place!!. I have e-mailed the source to make them aware of the error but have not seen a revised drawing. Its also still drawn to suit imperial DP gears not metric MOD ones. Whichever version you decide to go for I would highly recommend you track down a copy of LC Mason's book "Scale Model Traction Engine Building - featuring Minnie" Its out of print and fetches a premium but worth every penny. There is also enough info in the book to build the imperial version so you would be saving the cost of a set of plans, thats how I built mine. J |
Roderick Jenkins | 04/07/2014 14:13:21 |
![]() 2376 forum posts 800 photos | Posted by JasonB on 04/07/2014 13:50:22:
Whichever version you decide to go for I would highly recommend you track down a copy of LC Mason's book "Scale Model Traction Engine Building - featuring Minnie" Its out of print and fetches a premium but worth every penny. There is also enough info in the book to build the imperial version so you would be saving the cost of a set of plans, thats how I built mine. J There are 3 or 4 on ebay at present, which means that prices may not get too high. As with all of Len Mason's work, the book is very comprehensive and well written. Rod |
Axel | 05/05/2015 16:04:15 |
126 forum posts 1 photos | I just found the drawings for the metric version. Browsing over them I noted that the boiler tube is 67mm, that is 2 ⅝" if I'm not mistaken, not a very common diameter is it? If this is suposed to be a metric version, why not make it 70mm on the drawing?! |
Andrew Johnston | 05/05/2015 16:30:48 |
![]() 7061 forum posts 719 photos | Posted by Axel on 05/05/2015 16:04:15:
I just found the drawings for the metric version. Browsing over them I noted that the boiler tube is 67mm, that is 2 ⅝" if I'm not mistaken, not a very common diameter is it? If this is suposed to be a metric version, why not make it 70mm on the drawing?! Probably because a whole lot of mating parts would also need to be changed, meaning that 2 designs would need to be done. At the time the engine was designed I suspect the vast majority of modellers used imperial. Andrew |
JasonB | 05/05/2015 17:17:11 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | There are two types of metric models those totally designed for metric from the outset and those that have had the imperial dimensions changes to metric with some rounding up or down to commonly available stock size this falls into the later catagory. If you went upto 70mm then a new cylinder casting would be needed for example and the knock on effect would as Andrew says need a complete redesign. Though at least 2 5/8" is readily available , not seen much 70mm stuff about. |
Axel | 05/05/2015 17:29:36 |
126 forum posts 1 photos | I've looked around and can not find any 2 ⅝" copper tubing anywhere, got a suggestion where I can get some? |
JasonB | 05/05/2015 18:14:53 |
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Axel | 05/05/2015 18:30:43 |
126 forum posts 1 photos | Thanks! I had hoped one of the more ME oriented suppliers would have it, since I doubt these guys would sent a short bit off to Sweden. And finding anything non metric here is very hard! |
JasonB | 05/05/2015 18:54:29 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | In that case if you are going to have difficulty getting the other imperial sizes you may be best to get a complete boiler kit which will have all the tube and sheet you will need, ask someone like this . Another option would be to roll from sheet or cut down the next size up and roll it down to size. |
Axel | 05/05/2015 19:23:52 |
126 forum posts 1 photos | Good suggestions all three of them! Thanks! |
pgk pgk | 05/05/2015 21:27:21 |
2661 forum posts 294 photos | 67mm seems to be a common plumbing diameter albeit most i found were 1.2mm = 18swg and likely not an ideal copper type. If I recall correctly then i read somewhere it was used more in france at that diameter? |
Paul Lousick | 24/09/2015 23:42:22 |
2276 forum posts 801 photos |
I recently was searching for CAD models on the GrabCAD website and found lots of useful information like a 3D Solidworks computer model of a 1" Minnie traction engine. The model was sent to a 3D printer. Models are free to download after registering from grabcad.com. Paul
Edited By Paul Lousick on 24/09/2015 23:49:28 |
Terry Chapman | 17/05/2018 14:50:39 |
![]() 97 forum posts 14 photos | Posted by JasonB on 04/07/2014 13:50:22:
The metric plans have only been about for a couple of months so certainly none completed, I have read of a few other people thinking of starting one using the metric drawings but not seen any sign of work. There are a couple of things that are not right on the metric drawing such as the cylinder studs protruding from the boiler, OK on full size where they could send a boy into the boiler through the manhole but in miniature you would never get the cylinder in place!!. I have e-mailed the source to make them aware of the error but have not seen a revised drawing. Its also still drawn to suit imperial DP gears not metric MOD ones. Whichever version you decide to go for I would highly recommend you track down a copy of LC Mason's book "Scale Model Traction Engine Building - featuring Minnie" Its out of print and fetches a premium but worth every penny. There is also enough info in the book to build the imperial version so you would be saving the cost of a set of plans, thats how I built mine. J Hi,how do you fill the boiler on a Minnie please?
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JasonB | 17/05/2018 15:17:57 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | The Filler plug is the square headed plug in the middle of the cylinder flange on the valve chest side, that can be used for initial fill when cold. |
Terry Chapman | 17/05/2018 16:12:16 |
![]() 97 forum posts 14 photos | Posted by JasonB on 17/05/2018 15:17:57:
The Filler plug is the square headed plug in the middle of the cylinder flange on the valve chest side, that can be used for initial fill when cold. Thanks for that Jason, found it. I need to pressure test this for my own safety and generally found out how to fire it up and maintain it. Any ideas where I could find this info as Im sure you dont want to list it out lol?? Thanks. |
Terry Chapman | 25/05/2018 13:57:16 |
![]() 97 forum posts 14 photos | Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 04/07/2014 14:13:21:
Posted by JasonB on 04/07/2014 13:50:22:
Whichever version you decide to go for I would highly recommend you track down a copy of LC Mason's book "Scale Model Traction Engine Building - featuring Minnie" Its out of print and fetches a premium but worth every penny. There is also enough info in the book to build the imperial version so you would be saving the cost of a set of plans, thats how I built mine. J There are 3 or 4 on ebay at present, which means that prices may not get too high. As with all of Len Mason's work, the book is very comprehensive and well written. Rod Ive got a copy for sale/
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