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John Lucas 516/02/2014 19:43:18
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ME back in the 80's or 90's (or maybe earlier!) carried an article for a quick change tool post for a lathe. I did a search of the indexes and found these possible editions:

136 #3406 page 1154
162 #3847 page 520 <<< most likely
179 #4046 page 72
181 #4080 page 576
 
The post was a Norman style having an 1.25"(?) centre column and tool holders that slip over the post. A slit in each holder enables it to be firmed up on the post. The only other component was a vertical screw on each holder to set the height.
 
I'd appreciate anyone looking this up and telling me the edition number (it will likely be before the electronic archive). If anyone wants to sell the print magazine I will gladly pay a fair price plus mailing otherwise I can try eBay.
 
I particularly want the print copy (not a scan).
 
Thanks in advance.
John Stevenson16/02/2014 22:34:36
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I'm not being funny but you have adequately described the toolpost, Why would you need the article ?

Chances are it's not made for your lathe anyway and needs modification. In which case design one to fit your lathe

Keith Long16/02/2014 22:54:36
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The design in 3406 is by J A Radford and isn't the Norman pattern. Radford's design was similar to the current usual range of QCTP in that it consists of a block (more or less rectangular) mounted on the slide and then interchangeable tool holders that fit to that block. The design in 3406 uses a "T" shaped piston to draw the holder into contact and the alignment is by 2 circular dowels engaging in semicircular section grooves.

The Norman pattern is much earlier, Drummond had them on the "M" type lathe and possibly the "B" type precursor to that back around the 1930's.

I think there might be drawings of the Norman type tool post in the files section of the Drummond Yahoo group.

Keith

Edit - just checked and the design is on the Yahoo group, but a quick "google" search with "norman patent tool post" should bring up plenty of pictures and references to it. The design appears to be from 1925.

 

Edited By Keith Long on 16/02/2014 23:02:12

Gordon A16/02/2014 23:18:44
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Hi John,

Is this the sort of thing you are looking for?

http://www.swarfer.co.za/lathe/toolpost.php

Gordon.

Phil P16/02/2014 23:19:56
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The drawings and information for that style of tool post are in the book "Building A Small Lathe" by L.C. Mason.

Phil

 

Gordon just beat me to it.

Edited By Phil P on 16/02/2014 23:21:05

S Deakin17/02/2014 00:34:25
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Hi

Have a look at "mikesworkshop" web site, for his version.

Mar17/02/2014 03:57:43
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Another version: (and quite an amusing story)

http://www.lathes.co.uk/hercusapron/steammachine.com/hercus/page6.html

That design is less bulky and as rigid as the usual aloris style and costs peanuts to make, I made mine without the offset angle, and with a fixed tightening handle. (tap threads in the block instead of a nut). I also made a version that holds 3 tool bits (Turning, Threading, Cutoff), which is mounted 90% of the time.

John Lucas 517/02/2014 04:38:22
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The article i'm looking for is much like **LINK** with the vertical column and tool block with a hole #3406 does not sound right as the slide has a block and not a column.

My apologies in not being clearer. I did say I wanted to get the actual print magazine but not why, I friend of a friend lent it to me and it got mixed with some other papers and put in the garbage. My fault and if I can get the edition number I should be able to find a replacement.

Thanks for the help but I don't want to put anybody to a lot of trouble.

Gordon A17/02/2014 11:52:06
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There was an article in Model Engineer magazine by L.C.Mason entitled "A Universal Toolholder" dated 2nd January 1970. The design is very similar to that already described.

I have made a couple of these for friends who use them as "quick set" toolposts, ie they retain a single block and adjust the height for each tool as required; sort of halfway between fiddling with shims and a full-blown QCTP.

My observations are that there is no need for a large diameter height adjuster, I think I used about 5mm diameter with a fine thread for precise adjustment, a small knurled knob on top makes fine adjustment a doddle. I would recommend though that a brass or copper tip be fitted to the bottom of the adjuster to prevent marking marking the upper surface of the top slide.

The dimensions given are not set in stone, they can all be adjusted to suit the lathe. IMHO the main considerations are are a robust central post and a toolblock to suit the size of tools in use.

Gordon.

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