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Nobby19/09/2011 17:39:22
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Hi

I used a ED 2.46 in my control line team racers . with an 8x8 wooden prop. Also in a K. Craft Spectre stunt plane

Nobby
Ramon Wilson19/09/2011 19:36:08
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Hi Nobby - bet it didn't it have a built in nose weight like this one though
Sorry - couldn't resist that one
 
I remember flying a friends Spectre many years ago but have never actually built one. It had a Rivers Silver Arrow in it but no tip weight fitted so was really light on the lines and very touchy to fly.
I did build a couple of Stouffs 'Blue Pants' a few years back and fitted them with Racers but I much prefer glow motors for aerobatic models.
 
Happy Days - Ramon

Edited By Ramon Wilson on 19/09/2011 19:36:47

KMP19/09/2011 21:13:00
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Nobby, Ramon Hi, - you certainly stirred up some memories with those names. I built and flew a Spectre complete with ED Racer when I was 13/14 ish. It was good for "square" loops but did have a tendency to "tip in" if you let the speed drop too much with consecutive loops.
 
We used the ED Racer for combat practise and I had two "Dominators" with them in and a couple more (competition) ones fitted with the Oli Tiger. The Racers were reliable easy to manage and stood up well to the odd ground thumping. I also had a Rivers Silver Streak (2.5cc) which I used in a team racer, very smooth and quick engine but it did not last long when I decided to use it in yet another Dominator.
 
As you say - Happy Days - Keith
Clive Hartland19/09/2011 22:31:18
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I used to have an Amco 3.5 which was an excellent C/L engine.
I also used it in a Powerhouse model for free flight. Lost it in a big oak tree in 1954, still there as far as I know.
Also had an Arden 199 but the mountings was a circular back plate which meant a re-design of models to fit.
Later I had a Dooling 29 and a McCoy 29 that I used for C/L, had them in a various models. One of them a Stunt Queen.
Also had two PeeWee engines, very small and I made a twin engine Comet model for sport C/L.
One Aussie chap used to make a free flight model from one sheet of eighth balsa with one of these small engines which he would fling up and it would disappear into China, later it would be very carefully returned to the border post with a warning not to let it happen again.
Still have an ED Bee.
 
Clive
Ramon Wilson19/09/2011 22:54:10
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Hi Keith, Nobby et al - Aeromodelling memories eh
 
I thought I had a pic of one of the old 'Blue Pants' somewhere, the other one built at the same time went to a friend. Made about the early nineties I would guess - tissued wings and brushed on Humbrol - magic
 
I found this too - remember the Frog 'Talisman'? This one was covered with Jap silk
Sometime after this was built I scaled it up to 42" wingspan for an Olly Tiger which really flew well and even a twin for two MVVS 1.5s.
They've all gone now - had a really big clearout a few years back but my friend Alan still has the Talisman
A snap decision to go to the Nats this year finally saw this one getting finished to take after building the wing in 2005 - Remember Performance Kits too? This is their 'Pinnacle'.

Not flown due to the wind at Barkston over the Nats weekend it's not likely too now as I'm no longer active at a local level. It was good to finish it though, one less thing on the 'to do' list.
Anyone else with control line memories
Regards - Ramon


Nobby19/09/2011 23:33:09
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Hi Guys
I know its drifting away from engines Here's me & the Boss With the A2 similar to the one I won the southern area champs at Greenham Common Newbury In 1973 isx Our Maidenhead club included trains cars combat stunt free flight etc. I still have models in the loft & an ed baby .I have been working on my super 7 Mk.1 today
Regards Nobby
Richie M03/10/2011 22:48:20
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I recently bought a nearly complete kit of the Spectre on eBay, I started building one back in about 1964 with model flying pal, but we never finished it. So it's now on my to-do list, I can't decide wether I should try and pick up a period engine or just go down the modern O.S. route...maybe a 4 stroke?
 
Regards
Richie
Stub Mandrel07/10/2011 21:37:27
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I have a bunch of old engines, many inherited from my f.i.l.
 
I restored and flew an old Keilkraft Ladybird he built in 1953 in the 90s, using the ED Merlin (CI). It could fly again but the tailplane needs complete rebuilding and I have no idea what the cowling dimensions are. Could anyone scan me a plan?
 
I also have a lovely DC Spifire (larger CI) and a couple of DC wasp.
 
I also have a Pee Wee anda tiny one like it that is even smaller than my Gasparin CO2 motor. I have couple of red-head McCoy's with plastic square fuel tanks and glow heads rather than plugs (like the Pee Wees).
 
There's also a very odd glow engine with a K in a circle the only marking; I had this running well back around about 1990.
 
Then there's apair of very old OS engines - a MAX 1 and a PET 099. A Fuji 0.49 and a more modern GP100 (80s?). I used to have a 90s Thunder Tiger ABC which I never got on with at all and sold on ebay for £30 - the only one bought new.
 
 
I've never done much flying with these, but all but a couple have been run static. They all need cleaning up now
 
This thread has encouraged me to think about making a control liner though.
 
Neil
Nobby07/10/2011 23:13:11
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Hi Neil
Control line flying is a great . Its not like radio , you are actually flying the model. With wing overs ,loops etc. I belonged the the Maidenhead club & the lads used to fly combat at the Nats and won it one year as you know they put strimmers on the back and you score points cutting the other guys strimmer . It as been said before ED 2.46s ruled until the Oliver Tiger arrived I have a few engines in the workshop I may post a picture of and see if anybody knows what it is. Its a diesel. Drifting away again but .Ebays great for tools as well. I regretted selling my small Exe pedal lathe on Ebay I do miss it as it was great for screw cutting
Nobby
Stub Mandrel08/10/2011 18:52:11
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Hi Nobby, I meant DC Merlin, not ED! I'll post a picture of the (K) engine.
 
Neil
KMP08/10/2011 21:42:16
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Neil Hi, interested by your mention of a (K) engine and looking forward to a picture. I'm aware of (K) engines and myself had a Vulture Mk11 which was a 5cc diesel, long lost I'm afraid as it was swapped for an AM. I have never seen a glo version though and suspect if it hasn't been modified with a different head it must be rare and at least 60 years old. I seem to remember that at the time there were a lot of diesels that were offered in a new fangled glo version. Look forward to seeing what size and version you have
 
Keith
Ramon Wilson08/10/2011 23:22:41
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Hi Neil, Keith,
There is quite a bit about K engines on the MEN site here
If you click on the 'Finder' under Engines in the LH menu and type in 'K' it takes you straight to the other entries for various K engines.
 
Assuming your tiny engine is similar to your Cox Pee Wee I would hazard a guess that it's Cox TD-010 glow Neil. I think I'm right in saying that this, along with the DC Bambi diesel were the two smallest commercial engines sold here in the period your small engines encompass
 
If you do decide to make a control liner for the Merlin I can thoroughly recommend a small design called the Skybolt - the drawing is still available from My Hobby Store. About 18" wingspan, I would think you could get all the parts out of a single sheet of 1/16 balsa as I recall certainly no more than two. I built one, for a Merlin, in the days when I began to take an interest in aerobatics and was finding flying inverted difficult to grasp and expensive (in airframes) to deal with.
This little aircraft did more than any other over the years to increase flying skills in one go. Flown on simple 25 ft Teryline lines over long grass I could constantly fly it into the 'ground' inverted - my stumbling block - without so much as a scratch. It'll loop and eight with ease too - you'll have great fun.
 
Regards - Ramon
 
 
 
 

Edited By Ramon Wilson on 08/10/2011 23:24:43

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