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Lathejack15/12/2010 20:37:58
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Hello.
 
 Far Eastern copies of Western machinery have always interested me. Just recently offererd on Ebay there was a Taiwanese made copy of a Myford Super 7. This copy, badged as a Warco 730, was a long bed version complete with a hardened bed, power cross feed and a screw cutting gearbox.
 
 From what i could tell from the detailed photos, it looked to be good quality and just about identicle to the genuine machine. I think these copies were also at one time badged as Whitecote.
 
 Does anyone out there own one of these machines? How do they compair to the real thing? There was a recent letter to, i think, MEW regarding the headstock belts, from an owner of a Warco badged copy. A few years ago i had an interesting conversation with Roger Warren about these machines. They also offered a standard bed version, the 720 and also a copy of the ML10, which is the only one i've seen in the metal.
 
 Does anyone own a Chester Cestrian? This was a copy of the GOLmatic multi function milling machine at a fraction of the price. I examined one a few years ago and it mostly looked pretty good. It seems to have disappeared from Chesters product range just recently.
 
 Emco machines have been widely copied over the years, such as their Compact 8 lathe and some quite good copies of their FB2 geared head milling machine. Emco themselves started to sell the FB2 copies, these had a black and red paint job.
 
 Oddly, the current Emco F1-P milling machine is really a copy of two different machines. The table and vertical collumn are copies of the FB2 items, and the milling head is a copy of Hobbymats belt drive version of the BFE mill. Strange what the Far East get up to.
 
 

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ady15/12/2010 22:25:25
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The good copies tend to come from Taiwan, from rolexes to myfords to "samples" which can be purchased by businesses for about one third of the cost of the original.
A business supplies an original and they copy it and it gets imported as a "sample".
Taiwan has no law of copyright.
 
If it can be proven in court they are selling rebadged copies of an established product then there are various legal issues and penalties for any connected parties.
Chris Trice15/12/2010 22:44:21
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Follow the other links on the page too. Definitely not in the same league as the genuine item..
ady15/12/2010 23:06:20
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lol.
 
The first one looks like it's made of paper mache, the final one is getting there though.
Ian S C16/12/2010 02:22:16
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About 24yrs ago when I bought my large Taiwnese lathe, there was also a smaller lathe called a Colt, a copy more or less of a Myford, but no comparison really, it had a hardened bed, a no 4 morse taper in the mandrel, and polly V belts in the head. I think its only resently that Myford caught up, the sales man thought it was a great buy, it was about half the Myford price, still dearer than the lathe that I bought, but less capacity.Ian S C
Lathejack26/12/2010 15:51:59
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Hello.
 
 I have just been looking on the Grizzly.com website, and in their lathes section i noticed they are offering brand new copies of the Southbend 10K lathe.
 
 This new machine follows the old traditional lines of the Southbend, and so has features familier to owners of old Boxford lathes. It retaines the triple vee bedway, the apron and screwcutting gearbox design and the tumbler reverse mechanism.
 
 The new headstock does not seem to include a back gear, but it does have a belt drive similar to Polyvee, and includes a camlock spindle. These and some other design features suggest it is made in the Far East, where else? But the close up photos show excellent attention to detail and it to be a high quallity machine.
 
 I'm very tempted to treat myself to one, and might contact Grizzly regarding the possibility of importing one.
John Stevenson26/12/2010 16:15:12
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Posted by Lathejack on 26/12/2010 15:51:59:
Hello.
 
 I have just been looking on the Grizzly.com website, and in their lathes section i noticed they are offering brand new copies of the Southbend 10K lathe
 
 That is because Grizzly bought the rights to Southbend, technically it's not a copy but an updated version.
 
We need the same over here, I wonder if Lego is interested in buying Myford ?
 
John S.

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