New Barker lathe owner looking for contacts
John Coates | 28/10/2009 08:22:58 |
![]() 558 forum posts 28 photos | Hi
I have recently purchased a 1947 Barker 5" x 24" lathe. I am interested to locate and correspond with other owners to learn more about my lathe and what was standard (don't think mine is) and what modifications can be done
So far I have looked at lathes.co.uk and there must be two or three others around judging by the photos in Tony's article about the lathe (one of them is mine)
I got it because I need to do some fabrication for some motorcycle projects and thought it would be cheaper in the long run to learn how to use a lathe and make my own parts
Plus - once you've got a lathe and can use a lathe, you've always got a lathe in case something else comes along, right?
![]() regards, John |
John Coates | 03/11/2009 19:00:24 |
![]() 558 forum posts 28 photos | Well there's at least one other person out there with one ![]() Thanks Pat - you've given me hope |
Mark Millward 1 | 07/05/2013 23:34:31 |
13 forum posts | I have just got myself a nice one of these but am having problems working out the gearing from the belt drive through the gears. Would anyone have a workshop manual I could get a copy of or a scan etc . I have a suspicion it may not be all there.
Thanks Mark |
John Coates | 08/05/2013 20:24:39 |
![]() 558 forum posts 28 photos | Hi Mark The change wheels should be: 20, 24, 32, 36, 38, 40, 44, 48, 48, 52, 54, 56, 60, 80 (note the two 48 wheels). There should 8 speed wheels from 25 to 75 rising by 5's. There should be two large knurled spacers secured by grub screws to hold two speed wheels onto each shaft I have spreadsheets for imperial and metric threads which I can send you if you drop me a personal message (PM) They are very nice machines John
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Ben Philpott | 26/10/2016 08:23:14 |
3 forum posts | Hi guys, sorry about bringing up a 3 year old post but I just purchased a barker lathe last night and other than lathes.co.uk and here, there appears to be no more info available on them, does anyone here have more info,manuals and so on? Also I'm pretty sure I dated mine to February 1947 but would like see if that was right, stamped 2470/420. Thankyou, Ben |
Lambton | 26/10/2016 16:14:56 |
![]() 694 forum posts 2 photos | Ben, Have a look at this site. **LINK** Eric |
John Coates | 26/10/2016 17:26:59 |
![]() 558 forum posts 28 photos | Hi Ben I know one other owner and the guy I bought my second Barker from. None of us have manuals. I have spread sheets for the screw cutting chart on the machine and also a metric chart with the error % for each thread. Just drop me a PM with your email address. Anything else just ask John |
Speedy Builder5 | 26/10/2016 17:30:05 |
2878 forum posts 248 photos | Its interesting that you can swivel the headstock for taper turning. Why would this be seen as a better idea than using the top slide? |
NJH | 26/10/2016 17:50:10 |
![]() 2314 forum posts 139 photos | At a guess it would be possible to produce a longer taper than would be possible using the top slide - of course the problem then would be supporting the end of the work. Norman
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not done it yet | 26/10/2016 18:15:43 |
7517 forum posts 20 photos | would this be seen as a better idea than using the top slide?
lathesdotco explain this. ''Under power' is nearly always better than hand feeding. Certainly easier!
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Bazyle | 26/10/2016 18:27:48 |
![]() 6956 forum posts 229 photos | You can use a swivelled head for making tapered pipe threads ordishing the ends of bars to make them stand upright. I've seen instructions somewhere for doing this to ensure clock pillars sit square on the plates. Since the Lathes site mentions selling one to Harrow school has anyone tried contacting them to see if they still have it and any supporting documentation? |
Paul Cheeseman 1 | 09/06/2020 10:53:57 |
2 forum posts | I’ve just bought a 5” Barker lathe which is fitted with a Carter hydraulic variable gearbox. It is reputed to have started life at Terrys Chocolate factory in York. It is in good condition for its age with all the wheels for screw cutting plus unused wheels for changing the speed as these are not needed with the automatic box. There is next to no wear on the bars which form the bed although there is quite a bit of backlash on the saddle and cross slide which I’m hoping to resolve. It is my first lathe and while a bit old and quirky I’m hoping it will give me something to develop my skills on. Does anyone on this forum have experience Or any tips with these lathes or the Carter gearbox? Does anyone have any documentation for them (I.e. lubrication spec etc)? |
ega | 09/06/2020 13:54:31 |
2805 forum posts 219 photos | Paul Cheeseman 1: I have alerted a Barker-owning friend. If you can figure out how to do so, it would be good to see photos, particularly of the gearbox. No doubt Tony at lathes.co.uk would also be interested. |
Ady1 | 09/06/2020 16:22:38 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | Detailed photos of stuff like a working gearbox would be pretty rare and interesting Perhaps you could do a swap with Tony, a bunch of photos for his site for a Lathe manual if he has one kinda thing GL Edited By Ady1 on 09/06/2020 16:23:33 |
John Coates | 09/06/2020 17:55:09 |
![]() 558 forum posts 28 photos | I've had mine for 10 years now - and bought a second for spares Have converted mine to 3 phase via an inverter which does away with the speed wheels and gives infinite speed control. Bored out a quick change tool post from RDG to go on the top slide. I broke the saddle lock I've never found a manual for one. Now I've got two the prospect of a full strip, clean, repair and restore is a distinct possibility when retirement arrives
Edited By John Coates on 09/06/2020 17:55:48 |
Paul Cheeseman 1 | 09/06/2020 18:51:53 |
2 forum posts | Many thanks. I’ll upload some pictures of the lathe and send some to Tony’s site. The lock for the Cast iron tail stock on mine has cracked. It’s been turned round and a machine screw drilled and tapped in. A hexagon key has been brazed onto the machine screw. Hence the screw can be tightened onto the front slide bar to lock the tail stock. It works ok although runs the risk of marking the slide bar. Like you I’m thinking of having it welded but wonder if it is worth the effort as it may just crack at another point. |
derek mitchell | 09/07/2022 13:16:18 |
1 forum posts | Another Barker lathe owner here its a 36" model with suds tray and cabinets. It still has the guards. |
Joe Brown 1 | 19/07/2022 19:57:56 |
1 forum posts | Good evening. I’m thinking at having a look at one of these. Is there any means of adjustment if the bars are worn? How are people finding them in terms of surface finish achievable and depth of cut over a conventional bedded lathe? thanks..JB |
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