Anyone know a source
rik arry | 01/11/2020 10:06:57 |
56 forum posts 3 photos | Is there a source for MYFORD Hammered Green paint nearest I found is **LINK** anyone seen or tried another? Any help most appreciated 😊 |
Andy Carlson | 01/11/2020 12:41:13 |
440 forum posts 132 photos | I think you may be entering tricky territory. The choices of available hammered finish have diminished in recent years. The formulation of some types has also changed. Some say the new stuff is no good. No doubt health and safety and/or environmental regulations have something to do with the change. I don't know what Myford hammered green looks like TBH. My interest in this question starts from my ownership of a Unimat SL. There has been a lot of traffic on the Unimat groups.io forum on this topic... mostly hypothetical and around product availability I'm afraid. I have not seen anyone (in the UK anyway) saying that they have tried X product and had good results. The Unimat uses a light green shade of Hammered paint. Some have said it is RAL 6011 Reseda green. Maybe it is. My lathe and motor are both light green but one is a deeper shade than the other. Unrelated to the discussion on the Unimat forum I pulled my late 1980s Vixen SP102 telescope out of hibernation recently and remembered that the mount also uses light green hammered paint. Looking online I found folks saying that this was also RAL 6011. Once again I did not find any success reports from UK people. As you have found, there is also a community interested in Startrite machinery (which I must admit I know nothing about) who are also looking for light green hammered paint. The other product I found is this one Sorry but like others who have discussed this subject, I have not actually tried the currently available paint... on either my Unimat or my telescope mount. I think that matching will be tricky, so a full repaint is probably a better bet than trying to do spot repairs. The instructions may give you a clue about formulation. The old stuff used to require nasty thinners (Xylene??) and stated that the second coat must go on in a few hours after the first. Like I said, I have no clue what colour Myford hammered green was so RAL 6011 etc may be totally wrong. |
Phil Whitley | 01/11/2020 17:07:48 |
![]() 1533 forum posts 147 photos | when Hammerite became an Akzo-Nobel company, they dropped all the light shades of the colours, and changed the formulation. I have used the new stuff, but as you say, it is not as good. I have used Paragon paints on my Colchester student, with excellent results, and found it to be top quality machine enamel, but I have not used the hammered version. For hammered light green, I now use a version from Manor coatings, which goes on well brushed or sprayed, but I think is only available in 5ltr cans. I would go with the paragon, and report your findings! Phil |
Martin Kyte | 01/11/2020 18:15:25 |
![]() 3445 forum posts 62 photos | Posted by rik arry on 01/11/2020 10:06:57:
Is there a source for MYFORD Hammered Green paint nearest I found is **LINK** anyone seen or tried another? Any help most appreciated 😊 That's not Myford thats EMCO regards Martin |
Andy Carlson | 01/11/2020 21:12:44 |
440 forum posts 132 photos | Posted by Martin Kyte on 01/11/2020 18:15:25:
That's not Myford thats EMCO It says it is intended for Startrite machinery. How the Startrite colour compares to Emco or Myford I have no idea. I've seen a few photos on the Internet but the apparent shades vary a lot depending on lighting and so on so it is very difficult to know what is a good match and what is not... unless someone can put the two side by side. Even with pics on lathes.co.uk, I suspect some of the machines (Unimats anyway) have been repainted... which adds a further variable to the equation. My guess based on the photos is that the ML10 is a somewhat darker shade than the Unimat but I can't be sure. |
Martin Kyte | 01/11/2020 21:47:52 |
![]() 3445 forum posts 62 photos | Posted by Andy Carlson on 01/11/2020 21:12:44:
Posted by Martin Kyte on 01/11/2020 18:15:25:
That's not Myford thats EMCO It says it is intended for Startrite machinery. How the Startrite colour compares to Emco or Myford I have no idea. I've seen a few photos on the Internet but the apparent shades vary a lot depending on lighting and so on so it is very difficult to know what is a good match and what is not... unless someone can put the two side by side. Even with pics on lathes.co.uk, I suspect some of the machines (Unimats anyway) have been repainted... which adds a further variable to the equation. My guess based on the photos is that the ML10 is a somewhat darker shade than the Unimat but I can't be sure. . . . . and obviously StartRite as you say. regards Martin |
pgk pgk | 01/11/2020 21:54:41 |
2661 forum posts 294 photos | This thread caused me to look around the web. I note that Wicks do a hammered finish paint @ £12 for 750ml. Whether the green is a useful shade is another matter but at least the COSSH sheet states it's xylene based. and direct to metal.
pgk |
Andy Carlson | 01/11/2020 22:25:25 |
440 forum posts 132 photos | I found another thread about a Startrite restoration. This chap has actually done some painting... which is a step forward from most discussions about paint colour. I think the paint supplier was different again though. https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/startrite-mercury-10speed-advice.100275/page-2 |
rik arry | 01/11/2020 22:39:01 |
56 forum posts 3 photos | Posted by pgk pgk on 01/11/2020 21:54:41:
This thread caused me to look around the web. I note that Wicks do a hammered finish paint @ £12 for 750ml. Whether the green is a useful shade is another matter but at least the COSSH sheet states it's xylene based. and direct to metal.
pgk Hi Thanks although colour on tin doesn’t look anything like it although it rarely does I found a few other pics that maybe promising. As it looks lighter than what the tin colour displays 😊
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Brian Morehen | 02/11/2020 11:02:10 |
![]() 191 forum posts 11 photos | Morning Try Craftmaster Paints They have a great range of Myford colours
Regards Bee M |
Andy Carlson | 02/11/2020 13:23:15 |
440 forum posts 132 photos | In case you didn't find it... a thread from 18 months ago about grey hammered ML10 paint... suggests another supplier who does xylene based paint. https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=121595 |
Hollowpoint | 02/11/2020 16:19:31 |
550 forum posts 77 photos | I bought some if the Bitec stuff a few months back. It's fairly close to the Myford colour and slightly paler, more minty than the emco and startrite colours. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110909459993
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rik arry | 02/11/2020 16:43:00 |
56 forum posts 3 photos | Posted by Hollowpoint on 02/11/2020 16:19:31:
I bought some if the Bitec stuff a few months back. It's fairly close to the Myford colour and slightly paler, more minty than the emco and startrite colours. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110909459993
got any left over you could send for me to try on a handle happily pay etc cheers
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Andy Carlson | 02/11/2020 17:08:47 |
440 forum posts 132 photos | Posted by Hollowpoint on 02/11/2020 16:19:31:
I bought some if the Bitec stuff a few months back. It's fairly close to the Myford colour and slightly paler, more minty than the emco and startrite colours. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110909459993
Any chance of a photo of something painted with this paint please |
Hollowpoint | 02/11/2020 17:37:34 |
550 forum posts 77 photos | I've only got a small amount left which I've saved for touching up. I could maybe paint a patch on a scrap of card or something and send in the post. I'll try to get a picture tomorrow in daylight. I can photo it next to some unimat parts for comparison. |
Andy Carlson | 02/11/2020 17:47:48 |
440 forum posts 132 photos | A comparison photo would be brilliant thanks. |
Hollowpoint | 03/11/2020 16:23:19 |
550 forum posts 77 photos | Here is the comparison photo as promised. |
Hollowpoint | 03/11/2020 16:23:47 |
550 forum posts 77 photos | |
Andy Carlson | 03/11/2020 17:26:25 |
440 forum posts 132 photos | Thank you for that - most kind. |
rik arry | 08/11/2020 09:41:06 |
56 forum posts 3 photos | Link Not available in UK
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hammerite-45175-Green-Hammered-Finish/dp/B000PIG4OS Edited By rik arry on 08/11/2020 09:41:47 |
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