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RICHARD WILLS 321/01/2020 17:36:03
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Hello Chaps Ive made a wooden display Locomotive in Guage 3 , Its just over three feet long with a the idea of having a bit of wow factor to put on the mantle piece . I am going to make a second one so wondered if you would be interested in watching the build ? I was inspired by the fabulous Pitchford hall which is at the Epping and Ongar Railway. The Cracking chaps that run it , Dean and Tony , let me have really good look and were incredibly helpful with advice . I know they are running it at half term so if the weather is dry get down there for a treat , hall p7.jpg

RICHARD WILLS 321/01/2020 20:24:49
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RICHARD WILLS 322/01/2020 12:25:33
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I normally make model aircraft from scratch , but I guess i have always liked big steam locos . I cant afford a live steam model , nor do I have the time or equipment to make one . But I did want to be able to admire those gorgeous lines in something much bigger than 00 or 0 gauge.

I made the first prototype in foam board about two years ago . it was about 30" long and quite simple , but it inspired me to try to go to the next level . At the same time I discovered that ready made track was available from Cliff Barker at the 3 gauge society , so that if I scaled up a bit , I could sit my model on realistic track .

I am cutting some more sets off parts to do an on line build which I should be able to start in about ten days for those that are interested .

Im not sure if any will be interested so in the mean time let me know if you'd like to see one come together .

Richard

SteveW22/01/2020 21:02:12
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Looks good to me! And I quite like the natural finish. I would like to see more. Were the parts laser cut?

SteveW

RICHARD WILLS 322/01/2020 22:39:32
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Yes Steve , the parts are laser cut the first one was hand cut in 3mm foam board and then the parts were re drawn for the laser cutter . I have a friend who has always cut my designs for me . The beauty of having the files ready to laser cut means that changing detail or even scaling up or down is a doddle . I have another one that has at least 50% resin parts which I made in a latex mould . That has rivets and other details all moulded in . Its currently finished in GWR colours.

Having said that , I took them both to a model railway exhibition at the weekend and it is the wooden one that gets more attention . The wooden version jig tabs together because I wanted my 14 year old godson to be able to make one . Some of my model aircraft designs have been turned into long running kits by my friend in the past , so I may not rule that out based on response I got at the weekend . Either way , its a fun project , hall2-17.jpg

Paul Kemp22/01/2020 22:58:55
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Looks good, nice to see something different. Are the wheels laminated to form the flange?

Paul.

Jeff Dayman23/01/2020 00:14:07
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Very nice work Richard! I'd be interested to see some build progress photos / descriptions.

RICHARD WILLS 323/01/2020 13:18:54
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Thanks for taking an interest Paul and Jeff . The wheels are laser cut in three pieces . The flange at the back is 1mm flat version with spokes , The middle (or meat of the sandwich ) is about 3mm with spokes that match the flanged version but is of a lesser diameter ,and finally there is a fine 1mm rim that goes on the front to give the wheel depth , They take seconds to assemble but look interesting thanks to the shadow effect of the laser. I have also used the same file to make resin versions and 3d print versions so that I can experiment with finish .

The funny thing about the model is that you forget how big it is , until you put it next to a Hornby 00 version . Imagine if we could have had train sets this size when we were kids !hallp5.jpg

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RICHARD WILLS 324/04/2020 17:43:08
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Sorry about the delay everybody . I had a couple of other projects to finish ,

I'm going to start with the tender . Remember , this is a big model of around three feet long , so there aren't really any fiddly bits to worry about . The laser cutting is a real bonus as Ive been able to add tabs to most of the parts , making the assembly straightforward . Its a lovely subject tooimg_2172.jpg, and as you will see , the completed model does have real wow factor.

RICHARD WILLS 324/04/2020 17:48:56
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Above you can see most of the tender parts (except the main base plate and the sides . The steps , wheels and axle boxes are all shown and do contain a reasonable amount of detail . I have etched some of the details on , which with the way the laser works , gives a nice shadow contrast . The larger parts with the 45 degree sides form the coal chute in the middle front part of the tender .

I am using PVA for the whole build , but I do use it very sparingly and am careful not to get it on any of the surfaces that will show , just in case I want to stain the model at a later date . You can use cyano/ super glue if you prefer .

RICHARD WILLS 324/04/2020 17:53:13
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img_2175.jpgThis is how the wheels assemble , I actually used one of the axles temporarily to align all the holes while I glued the layers together , Start with the flange at the back and work forward using tiny dots of glue that wont ooz out every where . For the best effect choose the most laser burnt sides to present to your audience .

Harry Wilkes24/04/2020 18:01:11
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Nice work and interesting so yes to more

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RICHARD WILLS 324/04/2020 18:12:41
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Thanks Harry , I will attempt to do the whole build in a few days on and off. Ive decided to make all of the kits with no backing on the parts . What I mean is , they will not have to be released from a large sheet of material so that the build goes more smoothly without having to tidy up each piece and spoil the flow.

The parts will be sub divided but ready to go in different labelled bags . img_2176.jpg

RICHARD WILLS 324/04/2020 18:13:59
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So here is the tender base and axles frames . The valence is on the outer most . On the right end is the hook and coupling .

RICHARD WILLS 324/04/2020 20:51:31
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img_2177.jpgWhat we are looking at is the underside of the base plate The long frames support the axles and the cross frames keep everything aligned . You can see how the two outer valance strips just slot in here . The outer frames have holes for the end of the axles but the outer frames have enough "flex " in them , even when glued , to allow you to spring them apart and pull out each wheel pair and its axle.

RICHARD WILLS 324/04/2020 20:59:33
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img_2178.jpgThe wheels have been mounted on their axles and each axle sprung into place between the outer frames. The hook for the loco coupling has also been glued into its precut slot . End plates have also been glued on , these also have tabs to avoid confusion . There will be more detail added in the following pictures . This will be a kit that you can build straight from the box , or embellish it to take it to a more advanced level . The aim from my point of view is make the experience smooth and flowing , so that it can be enjoying rather than frustrating .

RICHARD WILLS 324/04/2020 21:00:13
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Any questions anyone ?

Steviegtr24/04/2020 23:09:56
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Very nice work you have done.

Steve.

RICHARD WILLS 325/04/2020 11:47:42
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Thanks Steve, The development time for this kit has been two years (off and on ) . At least it is nearly ready for others to enjoy .

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Here are the nice little details for each axle box . The laser cuts the parts first , then re visits to do the etching . Keeping as much of the model in wood enhances the final appeal .

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