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Motor for a Sieg X1 mill or (M1 attachment)

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Hollowpoint06/02/2019 18:03:33
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I picked up a milling/drilling head attachment for a C1 lathe recently but the motor seems to be kaput sad which is probably why it was cheap. Anyway I've noticed its based on the much more common X1 mill. Has anyone replaced the motor on theirs? if so where did you get it? Ive been toying with the idea of a slightly bigger more powerful motor but I would probably need to replace the gears with metal ones? any thoughts?

John Rudd06/02/2019 18:35:17
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X1 mill motor available from Arceurotrade.....

Edited By John Rudd on 06/02/2019 18:35:44

Hollowpoint06/02/2019 21:19:33
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Hi yes thanks for that. I don't actually have the X1 mill though. I have the attachment for the C1 lathe below. It doesn't have the DC motor and variable speed so I would need both the motor and circuit board! About £200 all in. surprise I was wondering if anyone had successfully fitted some other motor? One from a small drill press perhaps?

Michael Cox 107/02/2019 11:22:00
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The motor that you picture on the Clarke milling attachment to the C1 lathe looks identical to the motor on my X1 mill from ArcEurotrade.

Since it is unlikely that you would need to use the milling spindle and the lathe spindle at the same time I suspect that the attachment does not have a separate power controller board and that it is run from the same controller as the lathe motor. Is there a socket on the back of the C1 that the attachment plugs into?

I would urge you to consider making a belt drive conversion rather than replacing the gears in the mill headstock. The belt drive is much quieter, smoother and reduces any shock loading on the spindle. It is sudden shock loading that tend to upset the controller board. My belt drive conversion on the X1 mill is shown here:

http://mikesworkshop.weebly.com/mill-belt-drive-conversion.html

As an alternative motor you may be able to pick up a small dc motor that was made for an electric golf trolley. Ebay usually lists some of them. This could be used with a 12 V motor controller from Ebay

Mike.

Michael Cox 107/02/2019 11:27:42
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I just remember seeing this:

https://www.aimtools.co.uk/collections/spare-parts/products/katsu-550w-power-head-attachment-for-mini-lathe-machine-165013-and-165012

This is a powerful;motor, 500W, and variable speed power supply already assembled at a cost of £120

Mike

Russ B07/02/2019 12:30:56
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Posted by Michael Cox 1 on 07/02/2019 11:27:42:

I just remember seeing this:

https://www.aimtools.co.uk/collections/spare-parts/products/katsu-550w-power-head-attachment-for-mini-lathe-machine-165013-and-165012

This is a powerful;motor, 500W, and variable speed power supply already assembled at a cost of £120

Mike

I think you might find that motor is a direct replacement, ask the seller if he can roughly measure the square flange face on the motor and the shaft diameter - might just be a simple swap.

You lathe might also be the same but 250w to 350w ish - I'd put the new 500w motor on the lathe, and the lathe motor on the mill.

Just to make things complicated of course.....

Hollowpoint07/02/2019 14:41:43
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Posted by Michael Cox 1 on 07/02/2019 11:22:00:

The motor that you picture on the Clarke milling attachment to the C1 lathe looks identical to the motor on my X1 mill from ArcEurotrade.

Since it is unlikely that you would need to use the milling spindle and the lathe spindle at the same time I suspect that the attachment does not have a separate power controller board and that it is run from the same controller as the lathe motor. Is there a socket on the back of the C1 that the attachment plugs into?

You appear to be correct. After a little bit more research the clarke cl250 lathe has a socket in the back for the drilling attachment to plug into. My lathe is the axminster equivalent and does not have the socket. After reading the information plate on the front of the attachment I assumed the motor was AC and that is how I tested it. No wonder it wouldn't run. smile o

John Rudd07/02/2019 15:34:40
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Try the motor with a 12v battery (car ) if it runs ok, you might not have killed it....

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