Boiler Bri | 26/08/2018 17:01:37 |
![]() 856 forum posts 212 photos | I have never made a D bit so I thought it was about time I had a go. I ended up using a 1/4" hss drill bit. After cutting all the fluting off I gently ground the bit until it measured up to what I needed. Square on the end and exactly half the diameter. The half diameter being flat to the axis of the shank. So should I counter bore the hole to just short of the finished hole depth and say 3/16" diameter or should I just go straight in with the D bit? I can't try it or practice because my lathe has the valve set up in it ready for me to do the deed. Your advice please. Brian |
Neil Wyatt | 26/08/2018 17:15:17 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | For best results treat it like a reamer, leave it 1/32 or 1/64 to remove. |
Boiler Bri | 26/08/2018 18:03:50 |
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Right. Thanks Niel. I did not want to jump in and have a go then mess my valve up. Brian |
Maurice | 26/08/2018 18:07:23 |
469 forum posts 50 photos | The advice always used to be that the D of the D bit should be a couple of thou greater than half the diameter so that it cannot cut on the side and produce an oversize hole. |
Boiler Bri | 26/08/2018 18:17:48 |
![]() 856 forum posts 212 photos | Ok Maurice. I will let you know how I get on. Bri |
Andrew Johnston | 26/08/2018 19:17:36 |
![]() 7061 forum posts 719 photos | Assuming a flat bottomed hole is required the non-cutting half at the end of the D-bit should be relieved, otherwise one side will cut and the other side will rub. If one is not worried about exactly flat bottomed the whole end of the D-bit can have a slight chamfer. The hole should be predrilled undersize, but generally no need to bore. If the D-bit is properly relieved it acts as a fairly stiff boring tool. Errr if the D-bit is made from the shank of a drill the shanks aren't normally hardened. Andrew Edited By Andrew Johnston on 26/08/2018 19:17:50 |
Boiler Bri | 26/08/2018 20:41:37 |
![]() 856 forum posts 212 photos | Hi Andrew, its only cutting PB1 so it should be ok. I think the relief might be a good idea.
Cheers |
Simon Collier | 26/08/2018 22:03:16 |
![]() 525 forum posts 65 photos | It is not always possible but I prefer to make screw in seats I can face in the lathe. The finish left by my D bits is never satisfying. |
jason udall | 26/08/2018 22:05:55 |
2032 forum posts 41 photos | I know it's obvious but check your drill shank is the desired size .... |
Hopper | 27/08/2018 02:26:03 |
![]() 7881 forum posts 397 photos | And don't grind the shank down too far beyond the flutes. Most/many drill bits have a soft shank welded to the HSS fluted section. |
Boiler Bri | 27/08/2018 08:35:06 |
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I chose a quality bit to try it with and cut the flutes to leave solid metal. I never though of using a threaded removable seat. I might have a bash at that later. There for a 5" engine back head, the hand pump on one and the axle pump on the other. The two injectors go in above the water level. I will re make the two later ones when I have the back head ones done and I am happy with them. Brian |
Boiler Bri | 30/08/2018 20:42:50 |
![]() 856 forum posts 212 photos | Ok here's the results of my efforts.
PB1 material. I still have to clean up the edges and round the back off to suit the existing ones. The seat has not had the ball seated yet as i have to make a guide for the punch. A fellow forum member very kindly sent me some drawings of his valves with O rings fitted. I have drawn these up and if i am not happy with the ball method i will be converting them to O ring. 6MM D Bit I still have some parts to make before i can test them, new top cap etc.
Brian Edited By Boiler Bri on 30/08/2018 20:44:35 |
mick H | 31/08/2018 06:09:41 |
795 forum posts 34 photos | That O ring check valve looks interesting. Is the O ring mounted on a spring loaded plunger? Mick |
Boiler Bri | 31/08/2018 20:06:43 |
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Hi. The o ring is mounted on a small spigot to stop it wandering the spigot is just over halfway through the o ring and to the same shape. It needs about .2mm to squash down
Hope that helps. Edited By Boiler Bri on 31/08/2018 20:10:08 |
mick H | 31/08/2018 20:36:40 |
795 forum posts 34 photos | Thanks Brian. I shall try one out on a vertical boiler I am building. Mick |
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