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what width bed is an ml10 please

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Martin Newbold17/08/2016 21:35:48
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can someone tell me the answer to this please the widle of a ML10 bed

Cheers

martin

John Stevenson17/08/2016 21:57:48
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DAVID POWELL 404/09/2016 13:18:24
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Mine's 3 inches

Michael Gilligan04/09/2016 13:29:32
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Posted by DAVID POWELL 4 on 04/09/2016 13:18:24:

Mine's 3 inches

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That's bigger than John's dont know

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 04/09/2016 13:33:40

Martin Newbold08/10/2016 18:45:05
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Thanks a bit late am working on a new project to convert ML10 tail stock to Drummond 3.5" bed. This is the first idea i come up with to cut down the ML10 saddle to bolt onto the Dummond Saddle kike the old one did making a mating surface for the new MT2 tailstock.

 

Here i s what i started with

Original ML10 Tailstock

 

Here is the bottom part

original saddle.jpg

Here is it cut down on image software

cut off for saddle first try in picture editor

 

Cheers

MN

 

Edited By Martin Newbold on 08/10/2016 18:48:36

Edited By Martin Newbold on 08/10/2016 19:07:51

Martin Newbold08/10/2016 18:58:38
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Here is what its going onto

Existing tailstock Saddle

Martin Newbold08/10/2016 18:59:33
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I am hoping at least one of the screw holes will line up.

Martin Newbold08/10/2016 19:07:03
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Still working on it

 

Edited By Martin Newbold on 08/10/2016 19:08:42

Martin Newbold09/10/2016 16:42:34
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chuck tooth

Mocked up on tailstock saddle to measure vertical displacement

Try to see if the top was put on teh saddle where the vertical centre came

Difference from Drummond tailstock saddle to center calculation

Chuck Jaw height: 0.5845”

Tail Centre Dia: 0.1135”

Chuck Hole ½ Dia: .039/2”

Total .7175"

First cut will be .08” leaving difference from block to correct height .0825" to remove if all goes well. Does this seem right?

Martin Newbold10/10/2016 20:10:03
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Some cutting down today much more to cut around 5mm to get centres same as mt1 tailpiece. Intend to take some from top and some from bottom.

first cut removal of the lower parts

flat bottomed now

Martin Newbold10/10/2016 20:11:13
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Here is first try much more to cut down

first trial to see how it will fit

Martin Newbold17/10/2016 16:08:05
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First try on seems t need some adjusting.jpgo

First try still needs adjustment

Martin Newbold17/10/2016 16:56:50
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magnify.jpg

Martin Newbold18/10/2016 13:25:58
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Did a bit more to this got horizontal in the ball park and just vertical is out now . Will remove 1mm and see again

Getting closer only out in horizontal now

horizontal is great adjusts up nicely

Still have some material to remove . Going to remove 1mm next and then  try again

MN

Steven Greenhough18/10/2016 13:35:46
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A bit late to the party but...

It might be worth using a center in the spindle nose rather than a chuck? Might be that bit more accurate?
Martin Newbold18/10/2016 13:50:15
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Here is the reverse showing the ML10 interface with the old Drummond saddle which was under existing tail piece.Provision has been made to retrofit the MT1 tail piece should it ever need to be. Stil have approx 2mm to remove from top was able to remove approx 3mm from bottom. Am going to take it slow here so i can get it as tight as possible 1mm at a time.

Showing interface with ML10 and old saddle

Regards

MN

Martin Newbold18/10/2016 13:54:37
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Posted by Steven Greenhough on 18/10/2016 13:35:46:
A bit late to the party but...

It might be worth using a center in the spindle nose rather than a chuck? Might be that bit more accurate?

Yep Steven , thanks for the tip . I am still considering how to get it dead accurate . I need a 5/8 16 MT2 for my chuck to get the big chuck on it to hold something other than what I have . I have about 2 mm to remove approx so am going to take another 1 mm before I get into working out how to get it exact any ideas would be really helpful. Wont do this until next week.

MN

Martin Newbold18/10/2016 14:10:19
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Here is a ruler behind them in focus on the ruler then on tips

In focus on ruler

In focus on tips

MadMike18/10/2016 14:22:43
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All very interesting, but are we not missing the obvious here. The centre height of an ML10 is a known dimension. So why are you messing about trying to match a centre to the centre of a set of chuck jaws, or to another centre mounted in the headstock or a chuck?

Why do you not simply assemble your tailstock, then measure the position of the centre and simply machine the base, however constructed to match the known ML10 centre height? It seems so straightforward to me, or am I missing something here? It almost feels like you are all trying to re-invent the wheel to me.

MadMike18/10/2016 14:26:12
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I have just looked at the photos again. Is it me? You don't even have a complete centre in the tailstock, so how do you hope to match up the tips of the 2 centres when of them is not actually available to line up?

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