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Nick Wheeler17/10/2020 09:17:36
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Posted by CHAS LIPSCOMBE on 16/10/2020 23:37:35:

Other than that, the repeated and unnecessary use of "like" and "you know" by the young irritates as does the practice by many young people of speaking very, and unnecessarily fast.

'like' does seem to have moved from the end a sentence to the start, but together with 'you know', 'whatever' and 'sort of thing' has been a universal verbal tic for as long as I can remember. Some people seem unable to say anything without them.

Dan Jones17/10/2020 10:20:05
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I’ve found recently that grumpy old men who are ignorant to the younger generation get me grumpy.

Mick B117/10/2020 10:24:51
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Posted by pgk pgk on 16/10/2020 22:23:59:

SOD

At my school the full expression was "i before e except after c when the sound of ie or ei is that of ee. The only exception is weird" Of course that does depend on correct enunciation.

I believe that in 1796 all produce was 'organic'.

pgk

They didn't tell you about the weird thought about counterfeit proteins that seized Sheila by the weir, then?

roy entwistle17/10/2020 11:29:35
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I believe Keith was with Sheila at the weir cheeky

Mick B117/10/2020 12:14:00
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Posted by roy entwistle on 17/10/2020 11:29:35:

I believe Keith was with Sheila at the weir cheeky

Ah. I'll have to forfeit you that one...

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Martin Kyte17/10/2020 15:12:23
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Posted by Nigel Graham 2 on 16/10/2020 21:34:08:

Dave -

No mistake at all.

Although I do have a sense of aesthetic romance and accept we do use the word "sing" and its relations loosely, whale calls would hardly be thought of as "song" if made in the open air. It would be simply the whale's "call" and a lot of it would sound pretty harsh to our ears. It would be more farm-yard than dawn-chorus.

We call it a "song" only because it sounds to us as if singing; but the effect is not produced by the animal. My objection is less to the loose use of the word "song" than to the assumption based on ignorance that credits the whale entirely.

The plangency that has what our Mam would have called "soppy dates" going all romantic and giving birth in paddling-pools, is due solely to the ocean being highly reverberant between its surface and density boundaries below. These are part of its acoustic properties that also allow whales to hear each other over considerable distances; but let's not credit the animals with being some sort of sub-aquatic opera stars. They just wild animals doing what wild animals do - announcing territories, foraging for food and finding herds or mates.

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And toads? I have a frog colony in my garden, and can assure you that though I like hearing their bubbling little croaks, a "song" it is not!

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Once had a guinea-pig. They make all sorts of little chirps and squeaks, and the nearest human-made comparison I can think of, is not Gotterdammerung but an injector with a tiny air-leak!

I take the opposite view to you. My interpretaion of 'singing' is adapting the noises one makes to the acoustics of the environment in order to create a louder, more resonant effect that carries further. Sometimes this is for information transfer to other animals such as birdsong or maybe for echo location as in bats and dolphins. Most men do not sing except in the bath or maybe the subway/underpass where the main delight is in the echo/reverberation. So in general I would say that any noise emitted by creatures using the environment as a modifier as well as their voicebox etc is singing.

regards Martin

John McCallum 107/11/2020 14:20:38
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Politicians telling me what do and to “ follow the science “ Grrr !

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