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Gone Away07/01/2011 14:23:06
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Posted by Robert Miller 1 on 07/01/2011 05:47:53:
Reluctantly, I did renew my subscription to MEW in spite of  the $10 pre-tax difference

 Actually it's a £10 pre-tax difference

David Clark 107/01/2011 14:33:17
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Hi There
Wise Owl was selling very underpriced subscriptions.
EWA went bust.
Express mags now have it right after an initial hiccup on Canadian prices.
I believe MyHobbystore sets the the US  and Canadian price for Express Mags.
I doubt we set the postage though I could be wrong.
regards David
 
Gone Away07/01/2011 14:47:12
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Posted by David Clark 1 on 07/01/2011 14:33:17:

Express mags now have it right

 
At £10 more than ROW, Expressmags certainly "have it right" from their perspective. I don't think anyone would argue with that.
 
It still doesn't explain MHS thinks it's necessary (and acceptable) for Canadians to end up paying significantly more than anyone else in the world.  Or why a subscription fee in line with ROW would be called "underpriced".

Edited By Sid Herbage on 07/01/2011 14:48:42

David Clark 107/01/2011 14:52:05
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Hi Sid
Prices are set by the office after carefully considering all factors.
I don't know all the factors are taken into account any more than you do.
Prices are now set almost in stone.
Yes they may go up long term but not in the forseeable future.
I can do no more.
regards David
Gone Away07/01/2011 15:10:39
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Hi David,
 
I think all of us here are guilty of a certain amount of disingenuousness.
 
We all know that the answer is the obvious one: the NA market is too small for MHS to be bothered with. Nor are they interested in developing it. To save themselves the trouble, they offload it onto a middleman and if that drives up prices to an unfair level .... tough - people will either accept it or they won't and if the market disappears, well, no great loss.
David Clark 107/01/2011 15:34:11
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Hi Sid
As usual you are talking out of the back of something you sit on.
 
The reason for using a third party in US and Canada is to develop the market.
The potential of the market is huge and we are only touching the pin in the top of the iceberg at the moment.
This decision was taken to bring Model Engineer and Model Engineers' Workshop to a wider audience in USA and Canada.
Perhaps if we get a greater subscription audience over there prices may drop but not on the quantities we sell at the moment.
 
Please refrain from posting stupid comments where you don't know the full facts.
It helps no one and just wastes my valuable time.
 
regards David
 

Edited By David Clark 1 on 07/01/2011 15:35:50

Gone Away07/01/2011 17:31:30
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Posted by David Clark 1 on 07/01/2011 15:34:11:

The reason for using a third party in US and Canada is to develop the market.

By pissing off the customers??? That must be the "new economics" we keep hearing about
 
 
 
Please refrain from posting stupid comments where you don't know the full facts.
 
As stupid as blaming the price discrepancy on Canadian tax without knowing the full facts about that?
 
If we don't know the full facts it's because MHS chooses not to provide them. We are therefore left to speculate. If we come up with "stupid" answers, who's fault is that?
 
That said, I stand by my comments. I think it's an infinitely more plausible scenario than any you have provided.  There is still not an alternative,  believable explanation for the significant price discrepancy.
 

 
 
It helps no one and just wastes my valuable time.

In fact, the original question was from one (dissatisfied) ExpressMags customer aimed at others who might be in the same boat. No one actually asked you to get involved at all if you feel your time could be more profitably used elsewhere. All credit to you that you did so, particularly with the apparent lack of support from MHS. But it's a bit mean-spirited to do so and then when someone says something you don't like, accuse him of "wasting your time"
David Clark 107/01/2011 17:43:50
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Hi Sid
This has been ongoing for too long.
I always try to help but it is getting beyond a joke.,
All that happens is we go round in circles.
I have helped many people with problems but there wil come a time when I don't get time to do the proper job and that time is getting closer.
regards david
Robert George09/01/2011 03:05:37
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Posted by Robert George on 15/12/2010 02:55:47:

So, it's been a year, and I'm looking at the pricing (again) for North American Subscribers. 

The UK, EU, Australia, and New Zealand are paying  £42.00, which is $66 USD.

ExpressMags is charging $89 USD, and $109 Canadian.  So for some reason, the US and Canada pay 30% more than the rest of the world for Model Engineer's Workshop. 

 
I was wondering why David was posting a different UK price for the MEW subscription than I was.  At the time I made this thread (December 15), the UK subscription was  £42.00.
 
I just clicked-through the MyHobbyStore subscription link, and up comes the message:
 
 
"Sorry, this offer has now closed.
Please click here to subscribe at the standard rate."
 
After about 20 sections, the page auto-refreshes, and the new price is now £51.35
 
So now there's only a $10 difference in price.
 
I guess that's one way to equalize the North American price disparity! LOL

Edited By Robert George on 09/01/2011 03:13:36

clivel09/01/2011 05:22:12
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Posted by David Clark 1 on 07/01/2011 15:34:11: 
The reason for using a third party in US and Canada is to develop the market.
The potential of the market is huge and we are only touching the pin in the top of the iceberg at the moment.
This decision was taken to bring Model Engineer and Model Engineers' Workshop to a wider audience in USA and Canada.

 
I was browsing through the magazines at my local Chapters (a chain of Canadian book shops) today, and was gratified for the first time to see model engineering magazines. Both ME and MEW as well as EIM were on the shelf.  And although I am non too thrilled at a higher Canadian subscription rate, if Expressmag do create a larger North American market, that can only be good for the model engineering hobby in general.
 
 
David Clark 109/01/2011 09:32:47
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Hi There
Do you remember the cost of the magazines?
I would be interested in the cost of all three individually.
Overseas news stand sales are handled by COMAG I think.
Express just do subscriptions.
regards David
 

Edited By David Clark 1 on 09/01/2011 09:37:37

David Clark 109/01/2011 09:48:50
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I suspect the offer is closed because MEW 172 is on sale for longer and the offer closed after 4 weeks.
No one thought to extend the offer to allow for the longer on sale dates.
I will ask on Monday if they will extend it.
regards David
Albert09/01/2011 09:50:20
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Hello All,
  I have taken M/E for 45+years.
  I have 3 letters from M/E to renew at £50 by direct debt.I have sent 3 e-mails for a form to fill in for my bank---NO REPLY.
 
   Sorry --no response--No pay--- No M/E.
 
      Albert
David Clark 109/01/2011 10:05:55
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Hi Albert
Email me direct and let me know who you are emailing.
regards david
 
David Clark 109/01/2011 11:34:48
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Hi Robert
MEW 172 subscription page says offer ends 31 December.
Website says 21 January.
I will query it but doubt it will be worth the effort.
They will just say the website is wrong.
 
The next offer will be found at the following web address and will probably be active in about a week's time. The price will be £42 by direct debit or £44.50 for a one of payment by card or cheque and will include a copy of Workshop Practice book 46 Workshop Machinery by Alex Wiese.
Regards David
The next offer code is 
www.subscription.co.uk/mew/V083 
 
David Clark 109/01/2011 11:50:20
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Hi Albert
The form is in the magazine on the subscription page.
Why don't you photocopy it and post it to subcripttions?
 
Why do we need to send you a separate form?
 
regards david
 
clivel09/01/2011 23:19:11
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The single issue Canadian retail prices at my local Chapters:
ME    - $8.95
MEW - $11.95
EIM   - $7.99
These prices exclude sales tax which is added on and varies from province to province.
 
What is quite frustrating is the enormous price stickers placed on the cover by the distributors, not only do they cover up the UK price as intended, but also obscure a significant part of the cover artwork and in the case of EIM the actual issue date.
 

Eddie10/01/2011 10:05:31
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Hi
I were following this topic for a while.
The bottom line is any case is; Am I willing to pay for something as presented?
If it is a subscription or something on Fleebay does not matter. It does not matter what the price is.
I subscrbed to MEW for the following reasons.
The local shop price is more double what it cost me to subscribe. (5.5 Shop mags pay for a Year)
There is a erratic delayed delivery 2 to 4 months after issue.
Some issues not arriving to be sold here.
 
It was and still is the money worth of subscribing.
Eddie
 
David Clark 110/01/2011 10:19:54
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Hi Robert
Offer should remain until next issue of magazine is on sale.
The offer should have been extended untill 21 January.
Obviously they extended the offer as the date is correct but forgot to alter the template as well so offer would have ended on December 31.
regards David
 
David Clark 110/01/2011 10:21:50
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Hi Clive
Thank you for the prices.
Subscription is the best way to go in the US and Canada.
It is a lot cheaper than buying single issues.
We do not set the US and Canada price for newsagent sales, this is done by the distributor.
regards David
 

Edited By David Clark 1 on 10/01/2011 10:22:03

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