Robert Dodds | 05/09/2014 20:35:32 |
324 forum posts 63 photos | Hi, 1 : 1.078 corresponds with the typical shrinkage factor for Aluminium castings so it is quite possible that this caliper is made for someone producing small patterns for aluminium castings, perhaps even 1" to the Foot scale models. Patternmakers rulers certainly exist, with different shrinkage ratios for each different material that they are associated with but it is an inexact science due to the effect of different cooling rates, depending on the cast section and also influenced by the alloying of different melts. Additional allowances are also made to leave metal for fettling in some applications but this is very much a matter of whether "as cast" or machined finishes are specified. Bob D |
Eugene | 05/09/2014 20:36:48 |
131 forum posts 12 photos | If I was making a casting pattern from a finished object that vernier could be quite handy, adding as it does about 8% to the actual dimension. Eug |
Eugene | 05/09/2014 20:38:18 |
131 forum posts 12 photos | Sorry, posted at much the same time as Bob Eug |
Michael Gilligan | 05/09/2014 20:40:16 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Bob, Maybe a silly question ... have you checked the actual size of the "millimetres" The reason for asking is that 27.38mm [i.e. your "inch"] converts nicely to 1 5/64" ... It might be a pattern-maker's calliper, corrected for shrinkage. MichaelG. . Edit: Sorry, took a telephone call before posting ... Looks like we all got the answer. Edited By Michael Gilligan on 05/09/2014 20:41:51 |
Neil Wyatt | 05/09/2014 21:15:46 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | > Looks like we all got the answer..... We now await the size of the 'centimetres' with bated breath! Neil |
Speedy Builder5 | 06/09/2014 06:52:19 |
2878 forum posts 248 photos | Ah well, 1 Cm on the calliper = 1Cm on my modern rule. Over the 10 Cm of the Calliper it measures 99.8 Mm, but I think this may be wear and tear and general abuse of the instrument. I think that this still leaves us somewhere near Neil's first post, but not quite ! However I do like the patternmakers idea. But why would an 'inch' be divided into twelfths ? Bob H |
Michael Gilligan | 06/09/2014 07:22:25 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 06/09/2014 06:52:19:
But why would an 'inch' be divided into twelfths ? . Not that uncommon ... Old style school rulers had a twelfths scale too.
MichaelG. . Edit: Very interesting notes about using twelfths, here. Edited By Michael Gilligan on 06/09/2014 07:31:03 |
Michael Gilligan | 06/09/2014 08:41:37 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Bob, Is the scale engraved with the word "Inches" [or whatever], or was that just your reasonable assumption? MichaelG. |
John McNamara | 06/09/2014 09:09:53 |
![]() 1377 forum posts 133 photos | Hi All I remembered that type was based on numbers that divide into 12 so did a little web searching..... Regards
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Neil Wyatt | 06/09/2014 09:37:24 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | You didn't read the link I gave properly! 12 lignes make up one pouce! Neil |
Michael Gilligan | 06/09/2014 09:45:24 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Neil, The ligne was [and still is] commonly used by watchmakers. ... unfortunately, none of this explains the scale factor on Bob's calliper. MichaelG. |
herbert punter | 06/09/2014 10:32:09 |
128 forum posts 1 photos | French cabinet makers used to use 'French Inches', maybe they still do? Bert |
Speedy Builder5 | 06/09/2014 17:23:49 |
2878 forum posts 248 photos | We think the clue was "Found in South West France". looking on the web **LINK** It talks about the 'Toise' and then the Pied de Rois (or foot of the King). This being 32.66 Cm which divided by 12 becomes 2.7216 recurring. Not quite 27.38 mm, however there were regional difference and as SW France is some way from Paris, we think this may be the explanation. But always open to opinion. BobH |
Neil Wyatt | 06/09/2014 18:41:04 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | the later Pied defined by law in 1799 is closer at 27.07 Neil (Angels and pins?) |
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