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Thanks to the generosity of Alibre, Model Engineers' Workshop Magazine is able to offer every reader of Model Engineers' Workshop a free six-month licence to Alibre Atom3D. Alongside this great opportunity, starting with issue 274 of Model Engineers' Workshop we are running a detailed tutorial series in the magazine. This page will be the 'hub' for links to example files, tutorials and more so make sure you drop in regularly to keep up to date!

JasonB02/12/2018 16:17:06
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As David says you have just locked the first vertical line which has no length set, if you had set it's length and position it would have been constrained and those constraints carried over into the other two lines. Must say I have never used the lock constraint.

Like Neil I would have drawn the two circles then a rectangle of length 5/16, set it symmetric about the vertical axis and set the top edge whatever distance it is meant to be from ctr of circle and then just trimmed the fat.

David Jupp02/12/2018 16:27:56
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Jason - even a fully defined sketch figure won't carry dimensions, constraints through an offset operation. The offset is a simple one time creation of new lines. If you go back later and edit the source lines, the offset figure doesn't update. You'll also find that you can drag the offset figure around if you don't fix it somehow.

duncan webster02/12/2018 16:54:33
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David, why not use inches? because I'm stupid! Much easier when I switched

Looks like I'm still thinking 2D, creating a round boss as one sketch, a rectangular lump as another then dimensioning the rectangle from the boss centre and symmetric about a vertical from the boss centre worked in about 10 minutes. I'd been hours trying to do it my 2D based way. Must try to think in terms of shapes rather than lines. Neil's way works as well, dropping a rectangle on top of a circle then trimming away the redundant lines

Just one more query for the time being, if I select a figure, (shift left click drag) then copy with base point and select the centre of the circle. Then paste, it puts a copy overlaid on the original just a bit offset to the NE. I would expect it to ask where to put it (no silly puns)

Thanks

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Neil Wyatt02/12/2018 17:23:45
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I've got a problem trying to create a sphere.

I have a circle on a plane, and I'm trying to rotate it 180 degrees around the axis to make the sphere.

I'm getting this error;

WIRE_X_AXIS: Wire Intersects Axis

The circle is set so its centre point is on the axis.

If I use a semicircle and rotate 360 degrees, I don't get this problem.

I've had this come up with other rotate operations, can you explain what it means so I can avoid it more easily in future?

David Jupp02/12/2018 17:30:27
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Neil, for revolutions the profile must not cross the axis of revolution - the message means that the profile crosses the axis. The profile can meet/touch the axis, but must not cross it.

David Jupp02/12/2018 17:36:46
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Duncan, having copied with base point and nominated the base point - use Paste Stamper, the base point that you nominated will follow the cursor and can be placed wherever you wish.

duncan webster02/12/2018 18:52:00
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Posted by David Jupp on 02/12/2018 17:36:46:

Duncan, having copied with base point and nominated the base point - use Paste Stamper, the base point that you nominated will follow the cursor and can be placed wherever you wish.

Thanks again, #2 son came round and gave me a teach in, if I can remember it I'll be a lot better. It would have been a lot easier not to know anything about 2D. He even managed to not lose his rag with his elderly parent being dim! Never mind I can still run rings round him on stress calcs.

David Jupp02/12/2018 19:44:46
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Duncan, absolutely right - experience with 2D CAD can be a bit of a handicap when first adapting to 3D CAD.

Neil Wyatt02/12/2018 19:45:58
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Posted by David Jupp on 02/12/2018 17:30:27:

Neil, for revolutions the profile must not cross the axis of revolution - the message means that the profile crosses the axis. The profile can meet/touch the axis, but must not cross it.

Ok, so I can make a sphere from a half-circle. but not a full circle.

Thanks,

duncan webster02/12/2018 23:31:39
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nearly there, everything is constrained. I finished up modelling a 1/4 section then mirroring everything. Good job I'm not earning my living at it, still very slow.

Only issue now is getting rid of the red lines which are hovering.Wait for #2 son to visit again I think

Thanks again for your help

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duncan webster03/12/2018 00:13:35
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sorted, toggle sketches button turns the red lines off.

Then I closed down without saving. Not to worry, I've got the quarter sections so just mirror them again

AJS05/12/2018 18:24:05
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I am just starting the base component of the Mini Gauge.When clicking on the blue part icon the work space opens but the three planes do not appear.

The XY plane was selected using the design explorer.

2D sketch was selected and the circle drawn and sized.

2D sketch was deactivated and the circle just drawn disappeared.

It would appear that maybe a global setting is incorrect.

Can you help please?

Thanks

Alan

David Jupp05/12/2018 19:06:38
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You probably have references toggled off. From Viewing & Analysis tab on Ribbon - click References. See image.

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John Barber 505/12/2018 20:01:46
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Posted by AJS on 05/12/2018 18:24:05:

2D sketch was deactivated and the circle just drawn disappeared.

Just wondering if you might have created a "reference" circle, rather than a "sketch figures" circle.

JasonB05/12/2018 20:08:47
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No sketch can "disappear" if you don't have it highlighted down the left hand side of the page. But most likely also has Sketches toggle off as that is the one next to the planes toggle.

Edited By JasonB on 05/12/2018 20:10:06

AJS05/12/2018 22:36:23
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Thank you for your prompt replies gents. Problem solved, as Jason suggested by setting the "sketches toggle"

Now on to the next part with renewed vigour!

Alan

duncan webster06/12/2018 00:39:54
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More progress, I'm getting faster, still slow compared with someone who knows what he's doing. The calculated mass comes out within 1 gm of the weighed mass of the real thing, which is re-assuring. Creating the tapered flute gave me a headache

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John Harding06/12/2018 13:38:24
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What is the recommended graphics card/graphics board?

Is it a virtual presence for downloading or a physical entity to plug in to computer?

Thanks in advance

John

JasonB06/12/2018 13:43:15
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The basic system requirements are detailed here

David Jupp06/12/2018 14:03:03
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John, like most software these days you download the installer 'from the cloud'. Installer for atom is available here

To get the extended trial you'll need to use the magic link in MEW to register.

Graphics wise, any fairly modern PC should cope - separate card is better than integrated, but even integrated should function. Make sure to use graphics drivers from the graphics chip manufacturer NOT the default drivers that Windows installs (these don't support all features of DirectX that are required).

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