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Thread: Clarkson autolock help
30/04/2020 22:08:11

I apologise if anyone took umbrage at my earlier throw away remarks about apprenticeships. embarrassed

I've played with one of the old C-type chucks, as I ground a new centre for the owner, but never used one in anger. All my Clarkson chucks are the later S-type. I've never had a problem with the nut sticking, even on the larger ones I use on the horizontal mill.

Andrew

30/04/2020 14:47:39
Posted by Nigel Graham 2 on 30/04/2020 00:56:49:

It's intriguing. all this "I was taught...", against the manufacturers' instructions; and of course an apprentice never questions his superiors' natural great wealth of both skill and experience. *

Exactly, and that's how better techniques can get ignored, or looked down on. Although at one point I was looking at apprenticeships, due to an impending academic car crash, in the end I'm glad I didn't do one Instead it means I have to work it out for myself, mistakes and all. And I'm happy to try new ideas like CNC. smile

Andrew

Thread: Telescopic bore gauges.
30/04/2020 08:34:08
Posted by Andrew Evans on 30/04/2020 08:20:33:

Once you get the technique right with practice they are pretty accurate.

Assuming one doesn't have an independent means of measuring the bore how does one know when one has the right technique?

Andrew

30/04/2020 08:08:55

Got a set somewhere, but can't immediately find them. Which about sums it up. I much prefer to use proper internal micrometers.

Andrew

Thread: Hydraulic Copying Attachment - Micrometer Adjustment
29/04/2020 21:48:52

I'm currently using my hydraulic copy attachment to screwcut tapered threads. I'd like to control diameters a bit more consistently than I've done in the past. On the attachment is a silver knob with indents marked from about a thou to 60 thou. In this picture it's the silver knob above the lettering 'Colchester':

pattern bar.jpg

The manual says it's a micrometer for adjusting the final depth cut. Simplistically I would expect moving it would move the slide slightly thus adjusting the cut depth even with the follower fixed. But it doesn't. So I don't know if it's broken or I don't understand how it works.

Can anyone offer any insight into it's operation?

Andrew

Thread: What Did You Do Today 2020
29/04/2020 19:52:41
Posted by JasonB on 29/04/2020 12:28:43:

I was going to ask if the insert needed to be set to the lathe axis or parallel to the taper but I guess the special profile takes care of that. Did you start with parallel stock as you mentioned elsewhare?

IIRC there was a discussion here some while back as to whether the thread form on a tapered thread was perpendicular to the axis or to the taper. I'm happy that's it's to the axis; especially for BSP which can mate with a parallel thread.

I can't see much difference between a 19W insert (lower) and a 3/8" BSPT insert (upper):

inserts_bspt_19w.jpg

Other than, possibly, the trailing crest curve. The difference in height between successive crests for a 3/8" BSPT thread is about 1.6 thou aka not a lot.

I started with a parallel cylinder, worked fine. I've made a CAD model of the plug so I know what the maximum thread diameter needs to be allowing for some stick out past the gauge line. I just turned the cylinder to the maximum diameter, give or take half a thou.

Andrew

Thread: Cylinder to boiler mounting
29/04/2020 14:33:53

Seems rather a mix of materials? What scale and type engine, and what boiler material? On my 4" Burrell SCC (steel boiler) I have made EN1A nuts. I won't be using washers as they're not prototypical. I've partially made the studs from EN3B which is normally recommended, although not without dissenters.

Andrew

Thread: countersinking
29/04/2020 12:20:04
Posted by JasonB on 29/04/2020 10:10:06:

Most metric countersinks have the right dia head for each size CSK socket head screw so no need for making specials.

The diameters listed don't seem to tie up with either minimum head diameters or the maximum theoretical sharp head diameter, which would be needed if the head is to be flush?

Andrew

Thread: What Did You Do Today 2020
29/04/2020 11:27:23
Posted by JasonB on 29/04/2020 06:54:05:

So did you use a taper turning attachment or set the copy unit to follow an angled template and full form cutter?

A proper taper turning accessory was made for my lathe, that allowed the cross slide to be adjusted with the dial whilst also turning a taper. However, complete sets don't come up for sale very often and are silly expensive. So I used the hydraulic copy unit with a hand filed template:

screwcutting_copy_unit.jpg

The insert is indeed full form and is specifically for BSPT, not just plain old BSPP. The angle on the template isn't too critical as the mating bushes in the boiler are BSPP, rather than a matching BSPT thread.

A CNC lathe would be a nice to have. But the hobby level machines without live tooling and servo controlled spindles don't really offer me anything that I can't do with the hydraulic copy unit and repetition lathe.

Andrew

Thread: Strange WW1 Chuck - 1MT
29/04/2020 11:17:21

It rings a vague bell, but I can't remember where I've seen one before. embarrassed A diamond shape doesn't preclude holding round objects like drills, and may have been a way round the patents for Jacobs style chucks.

Andrew

Thread: Crabtree isolator switch/Myford MG12
29/04/2020 11:04:09

The lug is part of a serrated pin that holds the shaft on the lever to a collar with slots in it to drive the contactor. If that's not clear I can take pictures, or create a sketch.

Andrew

Thread: Clarkson autolock help
29/04/2020 10:19:52
Posted by Steamer1915 on 29/04/2020 09:51:52:

If you have a gap between the nut and the main body, you will most likely (especially on the 6mm or 1/4" shanks) break out the centre in the end of the cutter when the nut is tightened.

Been there, done that and broken the centre end on a 1/4" cutter. embarrassed

I'd also agree that there should be no gap between the nut and body. Instructions here:

Autolock Instructions

Andrew

Thread: What Did You Do Today 2020
28/04/2020 20:47:09

Screwcut my first tapered thread, 3/8" BSPT, so 19tpi and Whitworth form with rounded crests and roots, for blowdown plugs. This is the trial, in brass, rather than expensive bronze:

prototype_blowdown_plug.jpg

Ok, but not perfect, I need to do a bit more fine tuning of the technique.

Andrew

Thread: countersinking
28/04/2020 11:23:19

Trial and (hopefully not too much) error for me. I normally countersink manually with the work on the mill table. I have a fairly good idea of the depth needed so I set a bit less on the knee, countersink and try a screw. I then raise the knee in 0.1mm or so increments until the screwhead is flush or slightly recessed. Then, with the knee and quill stop set, the rest of the countersinks should be consistent. For paid for jobs it isn't that important as long as the heads are slightly recessed. I don't use many countersink screws on my model engines, and those that are there are hidden. The last countersinking I did was for M12 on this steel plate, used to fix the broken bench that the flypress sits on:

flypress_plate_2.jpg

Andrew

Thread: Crabtree isolator switch/Myford MG12
28/04/2020 11:11:43
Posted by Ian Armstrong on 28/04/2020 10:36:07

I think my logic is with the door open the main switch is 'Off' biasing the knob/lever on the front door to 'Off' also means when you shut the door, the pin on the switch and the mating groove in the barrel line up.

Logic is good as far as it goes. But you can't open the door with the lever in the ON position. The only way to open the door is with the lever in the OFF position, which is where you wanted it in the first place. smile

Andfrew

28/04/2020 11:05:48

Pictures need to be uploaded to an album before inserting in a post. Here's a link to a "how to post pictures" thread:

**LINK**

Andrew

28/04/2020 09:55:35

Pictures of the lever and spring, in the OFF position:

lever_off.jpg

And the ON position:

lever_on.jpg

The spring is pretty weak, wouldn't pull the skin of a rice pudding. The geometry is such that the spring tends to move the lever to whichever setting is selected. It certainly won't return a lever in the ON position to the OFF position. Given that you can't open the door with the lever ON I can't see why you'd want the spring to return the lever to OFF?

Andrew

Thread: P&W Jig Borers
27/04/2020 23:38:49
Posted by Steviegtr on 27/04/2020 23:16:27:

Now that is what is called a big milling machine

Errr, it's a jig borer, not a milling machine. Of course one can use it for milling, but that's not it's purpose. It was intended for the accurate placing of holes for jigs and fixtures. It would be capable of working to a tenth or so, long before the days of DROs

Milling machines go far bigger than the picture in the link. Search for bed mills.

Andrew

Thread: Proxxon
27/04/2020 20:20:17

I'm not familiar with the mill, but 3, 4, 5 and 6mm are standard shank sizes for milling cutters. Likewise 2.35mm is about 3/32" and 3.2mm is about 1/8". So I would have thought cutters from any source with those shank sizes would do.

Andrew

Thread: Crabtree isolator switch/Myford MG12
27/04/2020 19:06:09
Posted by Ian Armstrong on 27/04/2020 18:07:04:

Can anyone help with pictures of the fitment of the bias spring on a Crabtree machine isolation switch? Mine is fitted to a Myford MG12 cylindrical grinder and is situated at the bottom of the door............

Yes, but not right now as I'm going to do a bit more gardening before it honks it down over the next couple of days. I'll give mine (also on a MG12) a clean and take some pictures tomorrow morning.

Just a thought, is the spring you mention on the handle on the door, or on the isolator proper inside the cabinet?

Andrew

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