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Thread: Anecdotes 2
22/01/2013 11:50:06

Hmmmm, if I've got my calculations right, and assuming the journal is 2" wide, I make that a difference of 0.000083" on the radius. In other words less than a 10th of a thou. The tolerance variation would be rather smaller.

Under wartime pressures to get engines off the production line I suspect it may have been quietly ignored, plus a certain amount of muttering by machinists about draughtsmen who came up with the tolerance in the first place.

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: Toleranced and open dimensions on drawings
22/01/2013 11:13:43

Tolerancing didn't do W. H. Allens any good; the factory is now a housing estate. sad

What's left of the company is camped out in what used to be A Block of the grammer school in Bedford wot I went to, before it closed. Come to think of it, all of the schools I went to in Bedford have been closed and/or knocked down. Hmmm, may be there's a pattern there?

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: Milling - Longitudinal Traverse
21/01/2013 11:33:13

Ian,

Perfectly possible; here's a picture of the rear wheel rims for my traction engines being machined to width in stages:

rear_rims.jpg

The rims are a bit over 6 feet in length, while the milling machine table is 4 foot, with 790mm of travel. I also machined a V-groove down the middle of each rim using the same clamp and shift routine.

I have machined parts on my CNC mill that exceed the table travels. With careful jig design, tool setting and attention to cleanliness, ie, no trapped swarf, it was possible to achieve sizes appropriate to the accuracy of my machine, about ±0.03mm.

Of course, as we all know, bigger is better, but that will depend upon budget and space.

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: Which mag
19/01/2013 22:27:19
Posted by DerryUK on 19/01/2013 17:44:16:

In my limited experience (I have 60 years worth of ME and all issues of MEW) ME is aimed at people that actually make models and MEW is aimed at those that would like to make a model but would rather make something for their lathe/mill/whatever instead.

For instance in MEW you will find nothing about how to turn a crankshaft or a piston. There will be no discussion about piston rings.

Also, ME readers are less conservative than MEW readers so they do more ineteresting things and write about it. MEW readers can barely accept that CNC, CAD/CAM, 3D printing actually exist and don't dare talk about making a model in your model engineers' workshop.

Personally I find that rather an insulting post; one might almost think that the poster was an obscurantist himself.

Andrew

Thread: Turning tool choices
19/01/2013 22:16:01
Posted by Stuart Chesher on 19/01/2013 18:58:13:

Also, on the subject of tool steel, I have been reading about something called "Crobalt" tool steel. It sounds like good stuff, but is it just a brand name for bogstandard cobalt tool steel or is it something a bit more special?

Totally different; it's not a tool steel for a start, as it contains no iron. See here:

**LINK**

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: Milling Machines
15/01/2013 20:39:19
Posted by Old School on 15/01/2013 18:02:06:

Andrew J well you learn something every day Thanks

Olly,

No problem; as to why you'd want a collet alignment screw I don't know. On my secondhand vertical mill (varispeed head Bridgeport) the screw had been sheared off before I bought the mill. I've never bothered to replace the screw, and haven't missed it.

Regards,

Andrew

15/01/2013 15:48:59
Posted by Old School on 15/01/2013 13:03:13:

The main advantage is R8 tooling has a key way in it does not slip in the machine and it does not have to pulled up as tight with draw bar as mt tooling and consequentially you dont have to hit the draw bar as hard to release the tooling.

Sorry, but the small screw in a R8 taper spindle is not a drive key, it is purely for collet alignment. The torque is transferred through friction on the R8 taper. This is not a self-locking taper, so the drawbar needs to be fairly tight, otherwise the small screw gets sheared off.

Steve,

Just to clarify, the spindle taper would be MT2, MT3 or R8. With any of these you can then use finger collets, which are limited to one nominal size per collet. Alternatively you can fit an ER collet chuck in whichever taper you have, which uses a range of collapsible collets, each one of which covers a smaller range, usually 1mm.

Personally I'd go for a R8 taper in the spindle, as it is still used industrially so there is a wide range of tooling available across all price/quality bands. I use an ER20 collet chuck for a lot of my vertical milling. I can't say that I miss the upper range of the larger ER series, although I do have an Autolock style chuck if needed.

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: What lathe tools
13/01/2013 20:48:57

Nothing to add to Jason's advice. The designation CCMT is the first part of the ISO description of tool inserts:

C - Rhombic shape, 80º nose angle

C - Relief angle 7º

M - Tolerances ±0.013mm

T - Single sided, partly cylindrical hole, with a 60º countersink, ie, held by a central screw

Following numbers describe the size of the insert, the nose radius, the thickness and more. By far and away the most common insert, sold by most distributors, professional and ME.

Regards,

Andrew

Edited By Andrew Johnston on 13/01/2013 20:49:33

Thread: Cool down a mini-mill motor.
13/01/2013 09:27:32

Neil,

Thanks for the information. In electric motors (DC and AC) it is common to have winding temperature ratings in the order of 100-200ºC. Granted in a DC brushed motor, with rotating coils, the cooling is less effective than an induction motor where the coils are static, but the case can still get pretty hot without a problem.

I suppose what I was really trying to say is there actually a problem, or is the OP just being understandable cautious?

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: Turning cast iron
12/01/2013 22:03:41
Posted by Ady1 on 12/01/2013 18:06:10:

All good advice IMO

Backgear, high torque, low speed 40-50 rpm

I agree, but the OP mentions a mini-lathe so presumably it doesn't have a back gear; as the motor speed is reduced the torque doesn't increase. Consequently the power available decreases in proportion to the speed reduction.

The answer is to run as fast as you feel able to do so, to maximise the power available, as suggested by Neil.

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: Cool down a mini-mill motor.
12/01/2013 21:56:56

The motor getting hot may not be a problem. Certainly induction motors are designed to run hot when operating at full load. Hot means you will burn yourself if you touch the motor casing.

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: Quality R8 Drill Chuck Recommendarion
12/01/2013 21:51:41

You can get a keyed drill chuck to grip more tightly by going round each hole with the key in turn, rather than just using one hole to tighten the chuck.

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: Spotting Drills
12/01/2013 21:48:35

Well spotted Neil - Andrew

Thread: passenger car wheels
11/01/2013 12:35:22
Posted by Jeff Dayman on 10/01/2013 22:14:53:

Keep in mind too the rough rule that aluminum is 1/3 the weight of mild steel but is also 1/3 the strength of mild steel.

It's roughly right, but not the whole story.

The density of iron is about 7850kg/m^3, aluminium is about 2710kg/m^3, so as correctly stated aluminium is about a third as dense as steel.

A typical tensile strength for EN1A is 400MPa, for pure aluminium (1050) about 130MPa, depending upon temper. So pure aluminium is only a third of the strength of EN1A. However, pure aluminium (1050) is unlikely to be available in any form other than sheet, as it bends easily without cracking, but machines badly.

The inners of the wheels would most likely be made from an aluminium alloy. For a common aluminium alloy, 6082, with a mid-temper, tensile strength is around 260MPa, so more like two thirds the strength of steel. For an aircraft spec aluminium alloy, 7075 with a T6 temper, tensile strength is around 500MPa, so stronger than steel. If it wasn't then we'd make aeroplanes from steel as it would be cheaper. smiley

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: The Cambridge Turning Trials
09/01/2013 11:39:21

Raymond,

Thanks for the results on EN24T, looks like an excellent finish was obtained. I assume that DOC and feedrate are in mm, pretty impressive if not? smiley

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: Parallel turning on a Myford ml4
09/01/2013 11:28:35
Posted by Brian Wood on 07/01/2013 10:16:30:

Incidentally, the feedscrews for both X slide and top slide are 12 TPI; I know the dials are marked in 100 divs, but one full turn moves the tooling by 96thou.

Errrr, I make 12tpi to be 83.3 thou per turn?

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: drill sets
06/01/2013 11:36:16

I have the following drill sets:

Numbers 1-60: at least 40 years old, no idea of manufacturer, possibly Presto?

Numbers 61-80: also old, no idea of manufacturer

Blacksmiths metric drills: from Chronos, nothing to write home about, but sometimes useful on the vertical mill when headroom is an issue

Letter drills: Dormer, conventionally ground

Imperial 1/16" to 1/2" by 64ths: Dormer, conventionally ground

Metric: 1-6mm by 0.1mm: Dormer, four facet ground coated

Metric: 6-10mm by 0.1mm: Dormer, four facet ground coated

A range of Morse taper drills up to 2", mostly odd sizes bought on Ebay for peanuts, used mainly to remove metal fast before boring to size on the lathe.

Boxes full of other drills such as jobbing, stub, spotting, long, extra long, slow spiral and fast spiral acquired or bought as required for a particular job.

I mainly use the metric drill sets, but imperial is useful when working in imperial and the number/letter drills are useful for tapping holes on fine pitch threads, eg, BA and ME, when the metric drill increments are a bit coarse.

I bought my Dromer drill sets from Greenwood Tools. For drills under about 6mm it's a waste of time trying to resharpen them, I just buy a new one, either from Greenwood or my local tool shop. Apart from tapping sizes for M3/M4/M6 I rarely need to buy new drills, the Dormer drills seem to last.

Personally I wouldn't consider cheap drill sets; I need all the help I can get, and quality cutting tools is a good start.

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: Introduction
22/12/2012 15:34:26

Hi Lee,

Welcome to the forum. There are no dumb questions, just dumb answers.

I would concur with some previous respondents; get cutting metal as soon as possible. Don't get hung up on 'improvements'. None of my manual machine tools have ball screws or one shot oilers and I haven't found it to be a problem. They've also got lots of backlash, and that's not a problem either. There are two golden rules to machining:

1) Don't buy cheap unbranded cutting tools, however much of a 'bargain' they might appear to be.

2) Know what material you are cutting, who knows what the odd bits out the scrap bin might be.

Seasons Greetings,

Andrew

Thread: Safe working pressure for aluminium tube.
21/12/2012 11:01:38

The oxygen cylinder in one of my two seat gliders was aluminium. Fully charged pressure was about 2000psi. All the cylinders I use (oxygen, acetylene, argon) have bosses on the end with threads in them.

Regards,

Andrew

Thread: Analysis & Simulation with CATIA
18/12/2012 16:01:55

Mark: Thanks for the link to the NSK website. I've downloaded some of their technical documents. They'll come in useful as and when I re-design the spindle and bearings on my surface grinder.

Regards,

Andrew

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