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Thread: 3-Phase Motor Conversions: Are They All Hype?
31/07/2018 07:00:54
Posted by Neil Lickfold on 30/07/2018 18:19:44:

After setting the motor to the lower voltage option, get the hand book that came with it, and check the current settings, for your motor. From the motor data plate. The drive will generally go from 20hz to 50hz, but is programmable to 400 hz. Don't go over 70hz on the max limit. Some say don't go over 60z,(USA and Canada power frequency). Like others have said, as the frequency drops,so does the RPM, and so does the total power available. Also there is breaking options, and slow down/ decelleration settings. I think mine is like 0.3seconds or something like that, and have the accelleration at the same rate, on the motor start up and shut down.

I am surprised that if you brought the unit as a complete set up ready to run, that they would have the motor not in the correct configuration. I am assuming that your VFD is the 220V 3phase output one, and Not the 415V output one.

I have a microswitch inline on the S1 control circuit. This micro switch I use is a normal closed one, and is opened/broken circuit when the contact is made. It stops the lathe for when I do forward thread cutting. And allows me to turn the switch to reverse to wind back for another threading pass. Really good for internal threads. I have some pictures in my Album with it.

Neil

What's your reasoning for not exceeding 70hz on the drive Neil? Most lathes have 4-pole motors which will happily run at the speed of a 2-pole.

Thread: Thread cutting with carbide inserts
28/07/2018 23:15:38

There's no compulsion to use carbide at high speed if the circumstances prevent it. Thread as slow as you like, but beware you might suffer broken edges on the tip of the insert especially if you stop the spindle with the tool in the cut or don't have a groove to run into. I've been cutting 1.5mm threads today at 200rpm with a hand-ground carbide tool (ground from a busted end mill) and I've had to re-grind it several times after breaking the edge. HSS wouldn't stand up to it at any speed in this material. The task doesn't allow for a groove so I've been manually retracting the cross-slide and a couple of times I've missed-timed it then off came the tip.

Thread: Mellor lathe
28/07/2018 18:15:46

Howard makes a good point, especially for older lathes now fitted with quick change tool posts. Lathes which originally would have had a lantern toolpost hold the tool on or very near the compound's swivel centre-line so a travelling steady would would be designed to sit just to the left of centre. 4-way toolposts and more recently quick change tool posts have much more width and hold the tool much further to the left, in a position which is likely to clash with the steady.

I've had to fabricate a steel travelling steady for one of my lathes for which I have the original item because of how awkward it was to use when making leadscrews.

Thread: Hi Guys-need help!
28/07/2018 07:39:15

Hi David,

The threaded stud on the end of the capacitor canister is simply there for mounting purposes.

When you remove the cover from the terminal box you'll see the two power connection, which you have already identified, and the earth connection which is typically a tapped hole in the casing usually in one corner of the enclosure under the lid. There should be an 'earth' sign cast in the surface right next to the hole. If the motor is really unused there's a high probability it will also have the screw in it.

Thread: 2 start thread
22/07/2018 20:27:55
Posted by Simon Williams 3 on 22/07/2018 14:38:15:

Hello all, cor ain't it 'ot!

I have recently found myself repairing an exhibition stand, where the flat panels have 16 mm rods each sides to hold them together. I discovered that the thread I thought was M8 in each rod was actually 8 mm OD, but was two start. So the thread pitch is actually 2.5 mm not 1.25 mm.

Which led me to wonder how such things are specified. The thread pitch measured with a thread gauge is 1.25 mm, but would I be right in supposing that, if I needed to specify such a thing to a professional turner I ought to call it "M8 x 2.5 pitch 2 start" (assumed symmetrical)?

Look forward to hearing what the forum thinks?

Thanks as always, Simon

You're nearly right. The pitch is still 1.25mm, but the LEAD is 2.5mm If you specify 'Thread 8mm, 2.5mm pitch, 2-start you'll' either get a 5mm lead thread or (more likely) an irate phonecall asking what it is you really want.

So ask for 'Thread, 8mm OD, 2.5mm lead, 2-start'

Thread: Bantam lathe chuck
22/07/2018 16:52:42

Pull the jaws out of the chuck. Set the chuck so that one jaw slot is perfectly horizontal (at the back or the front) and run a tenth-reading DTI along the jaw guide (with the mag mount set on the cross slide). If the dial reading goes up or down rotate the chuck 180 degrees so the slot is now pointing the opposite way and repeat the test using the slide on the same range of travel i.e. don't wind the cross-slide to the other end, re-position the mag mount.

If you get anything but the same reading with the jaw slot at the front and the rear, your chuck is fubar.

21/07/2018 18:59:34

I bought a lathe (also a Bantam, ironically) which had a Pratt Burnerd chuck that produced variable runout in the part between about 8 and 15 thou. The jaws were a good fit in the slots, didn't appear worn and there was nothing obviously 'wrong' with the chuck except that it had runout.

Turned out that the chuck was slightly bell-mouthed. Gently holding a part in the jaws meant that you could rock it around as it was only held on the very back of the jaws. The jaws were perfect, it was the body of the chuck that was deformed. This was a 4-1/2 inch Pratt Burnerd integral camlock chuck so a good quality item, I guess that sometime in the past someone must have really wrenched down on a part held at the end of the jaws or maybe had some other even where the part was torn out, permanently damaging the chuck body..

Soon after I bought a tidy 5" PB chuck that only had outside jaws so I tried the jaws from the bent 4-1/2" chuck in the 5" one and they consistently gave better than 3 thou runout on both the inside and outside sets.

The main point of the story is that it's common to immediately suspect worn jaws or a worn scroll and often the attempted 'cure' is to grind the jaws but don't jump to this conclusion too quickly - hardened steel jaws are tough and slow to wear, iron chuck bodies not so much so do your investigations before grinding parts that might have nothing wrong with them.

Thread: Should every machine tool be bolted to a concrete floor?
19/07/2018 20:47:59

If you have a lathe like a Bantam with a pedestal each end firmly bolted to the bed then you should both level (align, actually) and fix the lathe down to eliminate bed twist because it takes no effort at all to twist the bed if it's set on any kind of uneven floor (even floated concrete floor isn't flat).

Currently I'm refurbishing a South Bend lathe which is the old design of headstock base casting and tailstock legs, this absolutely must be levelled and fixed if it's to work as intended and keep doing so.

Thread: Milling table regrind
09/07/2018 17:47:56
Posted by Pete on 09/07/2018 13:06:11:

Even a brand new top of the line mill will have a few thou of clearance. It has to or the table couldn't move.

A few tenths, but not a few thou. You wouldn't even start scraping a few thou of wear unless you had no choice at all, you'd mill or grind it first then scrape it once you were closer than a thou or even half.

06/07/2018 19:16:02
Posted by Tony Pratt 1 on 06/07/2018 18:53:03:
Posted by Pete Rimmer on 06/07/2018 18:05:43:

Grinding a mill table can often do more harm than good. A bit of surface pitting won't hurt once you've stoned the surface rust off but milling or grinding it can easily make a banana of what once was a straight table.

Is this from personal experience?

Tony

Hell no - I learned it s part of the scraping and rebuilding class.

06/07/2018 18:05:43

Grinding a mill table can often do more harm than good. A bit of surface pitting won't hurt once you've stoned the surface rust off but milling or grinding it can easily make a banana of what once was a straight table.

Thread: Am I getting an irritable old git?
01/07/2018 20:09:57
Posted by larry phelan 1 on 01/07/2018 19:44:18:

Perhaps that should be "Queens English"?

As in the dialect they might speak in New York's largest borough?

01/07/2018 18:06:18
Posted by martin perman on 01/07/2018 17:51:12:

I was taught to speak, read and right proper and I do expect others to do the same, I text queens English with all of the necessary punctuation in the correct place and if my daughter, 37, sends me a text I ask her to do it again if its it text speak on the basis that I don't understand.

I think we should form a club of old gits.

Martin P

If this isn't some kind of subtle joke, it's quite funny anyway

Thread: Is this true..?
30/06/2018 07:07:50
Posted by Hopper on 29/06/2018 12:26:37:

Nuts are about 1 x diameter thick, usually. Some cylinder head nuts etc about 1.5. I was taught 1.5 x diam. is considered max strength but 2 x is a bit of a safety margin.

Also, was taught that tapping into aluminium, use a coarse thread as fine will pull out easier. Some textbook theory is at variance with this but over many years I have seen BMW motorbikes with countless stripped fine threads in cast aluminium on drain plugs, filler plugs, cylinder studs and the like. But Harley-Davidson, who use coarse threads in aluminium, seem to last 80 years and more without stripping out.

Good quality aluminium will hold fine threads no problem. I re-built a bike engine to allow for 3x the power via a turbo and I drilled & tapped the cases for 12mm x 1.25 pitch head bolts which is extra fine (originally M10 fine) and the main bearing bolts (from M9 fine) . They were torqued to 75lbs/ft in 2007 and that engine's still going strong today.

Thread: Threadcutting in the lathe - help please!
20/06/2018 19:31:19

One thing that catches many novices out is that often threading a piece of stock will raise a burr which makes you think that the thread's not deep enough when in fact it's binding on the major diameter when you try the nut. You start to wonder if you've got your sums right because you've hit the full depth and the nut is nowhere near fitting so you keep taking cuts until the nut fits but then you find it's a sloppy fit and you don't know why.

Use a caliper to keep an eye on the OD after you have taken a few passes. If it's started to grow because you've pulled up a burr just carefully run over it with a flat file taking long smooth strokes as the part is turning. On a vee thread it won't take many strokes but on an acme/trapezoidal thread you might have to go at it several times to file the burr down to the correct OD.

Thread: Which type of pin
09/06/2018 05:49:30
Posted by JasonB on 08/06/2018 20:56:37:

Nige is making one of these but with a square head

A 'crotch centre'.

Thread: Does the alignment of halves of scroll lathe chuck matter?
05/06/2018 20:34:48

The negative of the L4 stamping at 8 o'clock on the right side is quite clear to see at 4 o'clock on the left. You have the orientation correct in the pic, just flip one side over on top of the other.

Thread: gear cutters
05/06/2018 18:31:06

You don't even strictly need a button. I made my first single-point cutter by first making a fly cutter of the same diameter as a button then cutting both sides of a piece of gauge plate with the head of my mill tilted to give the form with some relief.

05/06/2018 00:38:56

If you get stuck Frank I could possibly cut those gears for you, though you would have to cut any keyways required as I have yet to lay my hands on a broaching cutter set.

Thread: How to maximise material removal rate on a mini lathe?
01/06/2018 17:45:25

1. Get a decent piece of HSS

2. Grind a RH roughing tool with a ridiculously steep top rake and generous front relief.

3. Watch it slice off material like butter on your low powered lathe.

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